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Post by sroc4 Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:48 pm

RJB8525 wrote:an updated weather blog from bill evans

Especially this afternoon and early this evening, a lot of this will be in the form of rain, but there will still be enough snow on the front end and also about an inch or two occurring later on tonight to bring storm totals up to near 10 inches in the Five Boroughs. I think it's safe to say that 10 inches is a safer bet in the Bronx and Manhattan's Upper West Side, while near JFK Airport and close to the Rockaways on Staten Island, a general 6 to 9 inches is a better call.

But of course, the double-digit snowfall totals that will exceed a foot are going to be common across much of interior northern New Jersey, and also in southeastern New York State, primarily north of the Tappan Zee Bridge. Areas that are located just to the north and west of that changeover boundary throughout the day should see some of the heaviest snowfall, and we've been tossing numbers around like 16 or 18 inches, which still seems plausible at this time.

A word about temperatures -- if it does manage to reach 36 in Central Park today, it should occur either late this afternoon or early tonight. But it will reach 40 or greater much earlier than that on parts of Long Island and along the Jersey Shore, while it will be hard pressed to get above 30 this afternoon in some places well north and west of the city.

Wind gusts in excess of 35 miles per hour (probably 40-45 mph along the immediate coast) are also expected this afternoon and tonight. And while the snow will be fairly wet and not the kind that will blow and drift, this could still cause problems with snow weighing heavily on tree branches, and that could result in some power outages. There could be some slick travel conditions late tonight as even those wet sidewalks and roadways become snow-covered, and the snow will end from west to east in most places before daybreak tomorrow.

Temperatures tomorrow are still expected to be near 40, because of a southwest wind that will develop out ahead of our next weather system, a clipper that should bring with it a period of snow or flurries from late Friday night into early Saturday. Snow amounts associated with this weaker system should average less than an inch, but the upcoming weekend should be colder with most temperatures no higher than the mid-30s on Saturday and the 20s on Sunday.

Presidents Day will bring some early sun that will fade behind clouds, and that will be followed by a chance for some snow on Monday night as the next area of low pressure approaches from the west. Snow, or a mix of snow and rain early Tuesday should go over to plain rain with the temperature peaking in the 40s. It will be turning milder during the second half of next week, and that should allow some of the snow (not only from this current storm, but prior ones within the last two weeks) to melt.

Have a good day!!!!

With regards to this...ArtMetals, and Soul if you are out there I am with you. LOL Thats all I have to say about that.

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Post by Frank_Wx Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:49 pm

You see, this is where Mets become exposed. Bill said flurries and an inch for Saturday. What's the basis of his forecast though? The euro? Now Mets will hug the euro because it nailed today event, but the euro is always the superior model when it comes to phasing and miller A type of storm.

The CMC/GFS are superior when it comes to northern stream driven storm, and those models certainly don't show an inch for Saturday. Maybe this is why I took on meteorology as a hobby. I was tired of seeing real Mets being consistently wrong...

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Post by oldtimer Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:49 pm

Alex If we get the 4-8 i will happy as a pig in s--t! lol

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Post by aiannone Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:52 pm

Frank, do you agree with Epawa's map for Tn?

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Post by amugs Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:54 pm

Frank thanks for the info and me too on pro met comment!!

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Post by docstox12 Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:59 pm

Frank_Wx wrote:You see, this is where Mets become exposed. Bill said flurries and an inch for Saturday. What's the basis of his forecast though? The euro? Now Mets will hug the euro because it nailed today event, but the euro is always the superior model when it comes to phasing and miller A type of storm.

The CMC/GFS are superior when it comes to northern stream driven storm, and those models certainly don't show an inch for Saturday. Maybe this is why I took on meteorology as a hobby. I was tired of seeing real Mets being consistently wrong...

Your analysis of different models performing better under different circumstances conforms very much to the technical indicators I use in my investment trading techniques.

Certain indicators work better under different market circumstances.

There is a parallel.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm

docstox12 wrote:
skinsfan1177 wrote:I really got to give it to my wife I always get called into work when it snows and she is left behind with my daughter and she shovels it all especially this year with all this snow . I have it easy I plow with a truck she does it with a shovel Great job Babes.

What a great young lady!

You're a lucky man!
Thanks doc sure am
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Post by aiannone Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm

334 PM EST THU FEB 13 2014

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST FRIDAY...

* LOCATIONS...WESTERN SUFFOLK COUNTY ON LONG ISLAND.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS...ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 2 TO 5
INCHES...HIGHEST NORTH AND WEST. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 11
TO 18 INCHES.

* SNOWFALL RATES...UP TO 1 INCH PER HOUR TONIGHT.

* WINDS...NORTHEAST 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH
EARLY...DIMINISHING THIS EVENING...THEN BECOMING NORTHWEST 20 TO
30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH LATE TONIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES.

* TIMING...LIGHT RAIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON SHOULD TRANSITION TO
SLEET AND SNOW LATE THIS EVENING...THEN CHANGE TO ALL SNOW
AROUND MIDNIGHT AND BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES. A FEW RUMBLES OF
THUNDER ARE POSSIBLE TONIGHT. THE SNOW WILL TAPER OFF LATE
TONIGHT.

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Post by WeatherBob Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:01 pm

Bring back Alan Kasper!!!! Now he was a good broadcast Meteorologist!
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Post by RJB8525 Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:04 pm

wow upton 3-8 now wonder if they'll keep creeping up? it was 3-7 lol

YZ072>075-176>179-140630-
/O.CON.KOKX.WS.W.0005.000000T0000Z-140214T1100Z/
NEW YORK (MANHATTAN)-BRONX-RICHMOND (STATEN ISLAND)-
KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NORTHERN QUEENS-NORTHERN NASSAU-SOUTHERN QUEENS-
SOUTHERN NASSAU-
334 PM EST THU FEB 13 2014

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST FRIDAY...

* LOCATIONS...ALL OF NEW YORK CITY...AND NASSAU COUNTY ON LONG
ISLAND.

* HAZARD TYPES...HEAVY SNOW AND BLOWING SNOW.

* ACCUMULATIONS...ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO 8
INCHES...ALONG WITH A TRACE OF ICE. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF
14 TO 20 INCHES.

* SNOWFALL RATES...1 TO 3 INCHES PER HOUR TONIGHT.

* WINDS...NORTH 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45
MPH...DIMINISHING THIS EVENING...THEN BECOMING NORTHWEST 20 TO
30 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 45 MPH LATE TONIGHT.

* TEMPERATURES...IN THE LOWER 30S.

* VISIBILITIES...ONE QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES.

* TIMING...LIGHT RAIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON SHOULD TRANSITION TO
SLEET AND SNOW THIS EVENING...THEN CHANGE TO ALL SNOW BY LATE
THIS EVENING AND BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES. A FEW RUMBLES OF THUNDER
ARE POSSIBLE TONIGHT. THE SNOW WILL TAPER OFF AFTER MIDNIGHT.

* IMPACTS...SNOWFALL WILL MAKE TRAVEL TREACHEROUS. HEAVY WET SNOW
WILL LIKELY BRING DOWN SOME TREE LIMBS AND POWER LINES.
WEAK...FLAT ROOF STRUCTURES MAY ALSO BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO COLLAPSE
IF NOT CLEARED OF SNOW AND ICE.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:05 pm

news 12 say trace to 2 inch for me on back end, epawa say 4 to 6
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Post by Artechmetals Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:05 pm

Sroc I'm here ! I just don't get how they figure these totals I SAY THEY SHOULD HIRE MY FELLOW ITALIAN FRANK what do you think
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:06 pm

I always liked Bill Evans from the other board, seemed like a good guy and very knowledgeable but he and the other professional Mets in our area have made some off the wall comments this year,

How do you put out an update that says after tonight some parts of the city may see up to 10 inches of total snow from this event when the main, and may I add now highly accurate, reporting station has already recorded 9.5 inches.

You can't make this stuff up.
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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:59 am

This was a fun storm. Best of the season.

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Post by NjWeatherGuy Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:38 pm

This was by far the best of the season, strongest and most widespread winter storm. Unfortunately it formed with a stalr cold air mass and as it moved north dry air got sucked into the circulation and when the low was in the 980s just to the SE of the Jersey coast where the most intense precip should be there was a massive dryslot. It had blizzard of '96 low position and upwards of 10mb stronger however without an arctic high to the NW the wind gradient wasnt so impressive and winds were mild at best for a storm of that stregnth. In a -NAO pattern this could have been a godzilla with widespread 2 feet amounts up and down the east coast, however the end result of 8-20" in the area was the best it could do goven the corcumstances. Overall the best and most dynamic storm still and never before seen lightning and thunder downpour to heavy snow like that from a coastal.
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Post by pdubz Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:55 am

Amazing storm first time i have ever witnessed snow fall so hard so quickly. i think i got 14-15 inches in total over a 6-7 hour period, when it was suppose to be 4-8 then rain.

here is the album i made for the storm and a couple other ones, including last year severe season and of course hurricane sandy https://www.flickr.com/photos/119276687@N06/sets/72157641798686544/

will be updating my flickr during the summer if any severe storms occur
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Post by NjWeatherGuy Mon Apr 07, 2014 4:30 pm

pdubz wrote:Amazing storm first time i have ever witnessed snow fall so hard so quickly. i think i got 14-15 inches in total over a 6-7 hour period, when it was suppose to be 4-8 then rain.

here is the album i made for the storm and a couple other ones, including last year severe season and of course hurricane sandy https://www.flickr.com/photos/119276687@N06/sets/72157641798686544/

will be updating my flickr during the summer if any severe storms occur

Yes it was, besides the 3 or so inches that fell on the back end, the inital 13ish inches fell in a matter of a few hours before tapering off to light snow/sleet/rain that lingered for a while before the rain to snow backend.
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Post by Math23x7 Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:44 am

One year ago today is when this storm occurred.  Here is the radar image I saved from that morning. Crazy!

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