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March 4-5, 2015 Storm - Final Call/Obs

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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:55 am

Yeah, we got a lot of rain overnight. Hopefully second wave over performs but this warm air won out too long.

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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:58 am

as of 3am only Sussex nj is 32* everywhere else is above freezing. even Scranton pa is 33*. we are going to lose about 2hrs of snow to above freezing temps and with wet roads it is not going to acc. I can realistically see cpk end up with about 2" with most streets and highways wet.

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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:00 am

SoulSingMG wrote:Yeah, we got a lot of rain overnight. Hopefully second wave over performs but this warm air won out too long.
its the surface that's killing us. where is this cold air models were showing. it hundreds of miles away. 30-32* is not going to cut it with how wet roads are. no way. nws had me forecast to be 22* by 6am this morning. not happening
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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:07 am

nws qpf from 4am on.
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if cpk gets .6 qpf they will lose half to melting. 3" max snowfall unless qpf is wrong. what a bust this is going to be. bring on spring ready for some mild temps. btw changed back to light mix. 34*
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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:10 am

algae888 wrote:as of 3am only Sussex nj is 32* everywhere else is above freezing. even Scranton pa is 33*. we are going to lose about 2hrs of snow to above freezing temps and with wet roads it is not going to acc. I can realistically see  cpk end up with about 2" with most streets and highways wet.

Steve D is tweeting about this, but said just beyond the freezing line, temps crash into the 20's -- calling for a flash freeze to hit the coast by 6am.
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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:10 am

at 4am found two places in the 20"s Binghamptom 24* and Albany 28*.
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Post by skinsfan1177 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:12 am

Still raining as I suspected it would the changeover for me is 7am. Looking at radar still impressive moisture all the way down into the Gulf. Theirs ALOT to go here
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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:19 am

skinsfan1177 wrote:Still raining as I suspected it would the changeover for me is 7am. Looking at radar still impressive moisture all the way down into the Gulf. Theirs ALOT to go here
skins we need to get surface down into the 20's before this starts sticking. every hour we hover near freezing we are losing qpf. I am not as optimistic as I was last night. we shall see
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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:19 am

I still think beyond 6am we'll see temps crash at coast to the 20's and that's when the goin will get good
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Post by snow247 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:19 am

Upton lowered me to almost nothing lol

Spring mode.
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Post by oldtimer Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:22 am

And this supposed be over by 11AM   Would need heavy snow for five hours to get 6"

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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:25 am

latest rgem
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that's still 3-6" area wide. you have to get donw to extreme s jersey to get more than 6". what models can't predict is how fast snow acc. it can show .5qpf falling as snow and spit out 5-6" but they do not take into account melting. that's where forecasting comes in. to try and figure what amount actually sticks.
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Post by snow247 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:29 am

Nada.
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Post by 2004blackwrx Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:31 am

Near Peekskill in northern Westchester. I stiill havent seen anything here.

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Post by skinsfan1177 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:31 am

If you look at current conditions the cold air is working its way in. I was always anticipating the changeover this late even last night runs where showing it for me around 7am. And I was still looking at 6-10 inches it snows until early evening. Current radar looks impressive to me. Now is when you look at current conditions
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Post by billg315 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:31 am

It is snowing here and 34*. I think it just changed to snow in the last 30 minutes. However ground is just wet as its above freezing still and snow is pretty light. 2 things need to happen in the next 2 hours for this to add up to anything, the temp needs to drop below freezing and the intensity needs to pick up. Right now though 6" seems like it's going to be tough to get to. We shall see.
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Post by 2004blackwrx Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:33 am

Radar looks juicy too me but still not seeing snow here.

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Post by 2004blackwrx Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:33 am

I mean snow or rain.

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Post by snow247 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:34 am

Keep your expectations low guys, all I'm saying.

Going back to sleep, good luck all!


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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:34 am

once it turned to snow intensity has lightened. radar looks impressive but very little snow is falling right now
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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:36 am

I gotta say, though:

What a Kentucky Special. Who knew! lol
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Post by snow247 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:37 am

SoulSingMG wrote:I gotta say, though:

What a Kentucky Special. Who knew! lol

Haven't they been getting snowstorm after snowstorm after snowstorm?
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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:41 am

snow247 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:I gotta say, though:

What a Kentucky Special. Who knew! lol

Haven't they been getting snowstorm after snowstorm after snowstorm?

Not one with 20+ inches! Roads are shut down, major highways have cars trapped on them with snow drifts over the tops of car doors. Wild down there.
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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:42 am

Incidentally, the temperature in Manhattan just dropped 5º in a matter of 45 minutes.
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Post by algae888 Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:44 am

SoulSingMG wrote:Incidentally, the temperature in Manhattan just dropped 5º in a matter of 45 minutes.
soul what is your temp. im at 32* now
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Post by oldtimer Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:44 am

That might be the crash

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Post by SoulSingMG Thu Mar 05, 2015 6:45 am

algae888 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:Incidentally, the temperature in Manhattan just dropped 5º in a matter of 45 minutes.
soul what is your temp. im at 32* now

32 degrees in Manhattan now!
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