January 2022 Obs & Discussions
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Sroc that Eagles game was actually Dec 7, 2013 very early in our winter season. My back yard (Lakehurst at the time) snowed hard from about noon until about 6 pm. I was a snow weenie back then, but not following along at all, so i had zero idea that this storm was even out there until Lily (3 at the time) yelled “It’s Snowing!” This storm and that Eagles-Lions game as crippo pointed out, live on in lore around these parts.
Returning to this storm, of course, I am very happy to see that the surface map trends were backed up by more substantive changes! Keep on tracking! Keep on reeling Mugsy!!!
Returning to this storm, of course, I am very happy to see that the surface map trends were backed up by more substantive changes! Keep on tracking! Keep on reeling Mugsy!!!
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
NW HO WE GO!! nice lean on the SLP on EURO.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
SENJsnowman wrote:Sroc that Eagles game was actually Dec 7, 2013 very early in our winter season. My back yard (Lakehurst at the time) snowed hard from about noon until about 6 pm. I was a snow weenie back then, but not following along at all, so i had zero idea that this storm was even out there until Lily (3 at the time) yelled “It’s Snowing!” This storm and that Eagles-Lions game as crippo pointed out, live on in lore around these parts.
Returning to this storm, of course, I am very happy to see that the surface map trends were backed up by more substantive changes! Keep on tracking! Keep on reeling Mugsy!!!
That's crazy that it was 8 years ago!! Seems like yesterday. BTW..................
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
SREF just came north by quite a bit. Usually the NAM follows suit whatever that model shows. I guess we’ll find out shortly.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Jump jump everybody now!!
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
amugs wrote:Jump jump everybody now!!
It’s happening!!!
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
The confluence as per SROC jet streak maps on the previous page show this lifting N and relaxing as well. If we get more of both and hold back the SW energy in the south a few hours then they NS energy can dive in and phase.
Just a possibility that would allow a more N trend and stronger storm.
Keep an eye on it. If not we settle for what is what then. NNJ sharp cutoff
Just a possibility that would allow a more N trend and stronger storm.
Keep an eye on it. If not we settle for what is what then. NNJ sharp cutoff
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
I can tell you already NAM will be caving N
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
SRoc- we might be getting the goods in Manorville/Wading River
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
NAM definitely looking more GFS like. There's time to get something out of this as long as we see the trends continue. Remarkable if it holds.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
heehaw453 wrote:NAM definitely looking more GFS like. There's time to get something out of this as long as we see the trends continue. Remarkable if it holds.
Def a huge shift N on the Nam. Next up rgem
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
BIG Shift at 500mb. Nice trend overall.
Look at the change in the trough and confluence over Maine = weaker and more N.
Look at the change in the trough and confluence over Maine = weaker and more N.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Mid-Atlantic NWS offices must be concerned. They have forecasts out for no snow right now in many of the CWAs and some of these models are spitting out double digit snowfall. Unreal.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Is this a quick hitter? In and out in 6-8 hours ?
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
dsix85 wrote:SRoc- we might be getting the goods in Manorville/Wading River
We shall see. I’m not quite ready to sound the alarm but I’m starting to get a tingling sensation down my arms. I thinks it’s a snow tingling and not the precursor to a heart attack. Lol
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Dsix. 6-8hrs seems reasonable. Maybe 8-12 hours worth at most IF it pans out.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Yes. I'm thinking trough tilt and maybe a little wave forms on the baroclinic zone just off NJ coast which could enhance precip too. Maybe models are picking up on that. That is really expansive precip field regardless.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Rgem=bleh. Closed low just slips strait East consequently the surface low does too
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
GFS looking amped. It’s north at 36 hrs.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
One additional factor that could aid in expansion of precip further north could be how convective this thing can get while further south - specifically with regard to latent heat release which could help raise heights. If that were to become a wildcard it would be something the meso/shorter range models might pick up on during the day tomorrow.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
The trend to hold back the energy and the confluence ticked N and weaker again. Let's keep this going.
RGEM 500 was better and made nice improvements but surface was blah. Not good with this. Euro up next.
RGEM 500 was better and made nice improvements but surface was blah. Not good with this. Euro up next.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Gfs=oh baby. Came a tad further N.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
GFS pushing > 1' of snow deep into Ocean County, LOL! AC with 18".
I just cannot wrap my head around it. I think it may be forming another wave off the baroclinic zone to get that kind of lift that far north.
I just cannot wrap my head around it. I think it may be forming another wave off the baroclinic zone to get that kind of lift that far north.
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