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Post by heehaw453 Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:56 am

12Z Icon say Happy Valentines Day NW folks.  What could go wrong with its D5+ forecast?

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:19 pm

heehaw453 wrote:12Z Icon say Happy Valentines Day NW folks.  What could go wrong with its D5+ forecast?

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lol everything if frank puts up a thread more that 6 hrs before game time, storms can't turn around lol

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:20 pm

amugs wrote:This is what I see and hear many doing which is fine at this point but we still have about 5 weeks of winter left  IMO. Interesting how peeps are saying if we don't have snow then bring on the warmth.... we live in a colder climate you know in the NE here, not in Mary's land or Virginia LOL! Funny as a kids growing up and even the older folks did not care if it was cold in winter - it's what its suppose to be is what they would always say to us. The ol' war vets would say - it makes you tough. Winter makes you appreciate spring and summer and then summer makes you appreciate fall and then you get ready for winter.

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Not throwing in the towel but when I say bring on spring it is for certain reasons I did not have a reason for when I was younger. Now the sooner warm weather comes the sooner I can start. It is very nice today, was warm even with just my coat and open for that fact.
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Post by docstox12 Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:33 pm

amugs wrote:This is what I see and hear many doing which is fine at this point but we still have about 5 weeks of winter left  IMO. Interesting how peeps are saying if we don't have snow then bring on the warmth.... we live in a colder climate you know in the NE here, not in Mary's land or Virginia LOL! Funny as a kids growing up and even the older folks did not care if it was cold in winter - it's what its suppose to be is what they would always say to us. The ol' war vets would say - it makes you tough. Winter makes you appreciate spring and summer and then summer makes you appreciate fall and then you get ready for winter.

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February 2018 I went out for a walk in Overpeck Park Leonia NJ and buds were opening on the trees with temps in the high 60's or low 70's.The whole week was warm.Fast forward to March 2018, 27 inch snowstorm in the HV.I throw in the towel March 15th if the next two weeks look snowless.

So true Mugsy about the old war vets, WW I and WW II when I was a kid back in the 1950's.No "participation trophies" back then, you cut the mustard with these guys or else,LOL.
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Post by amugs Tue Feb 08, 2022 1:45 pm

Doc - oh yes they'd let you know, no warm n fuzzies with those guys. At the endish of the 1st week of March (10-12th I give it until) if we do not have any true threat, pattern recognition thereabouts then I say lest end it and we analyze things and learn for the future and see what Spring and Summer look like. Also, I love to see teh extra long range indicators start to show up in April/May for the upcoming winter!! Never stop the grind!!

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Post by amugs Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:25 pm

Very interesting article about what new information researched about the Little Ice Age and what caused it from a new paper released.

https://electroverse.net/warming-arctic-drove-earth-into-the-little-ice-age/

All ties to this guy which if ever does collapse watch out peeps we in for it. Franks Snow meter may never stop from early Nov through early April!

https://electroverse.net/the-arctics-ticking-climate-bomb-little-ice-age-imminent/

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Post by sroc4 Tue Feb 08, 2022 3:30 pm

amugs wrote:Very interesting article about what new information researched about the Little Ice Age and what caused it from a new paper released.

https://electroverse.net/warming-arctic-drove-earth-into-the-little-ice-age/

All ties to this guy which if ever does collapse watch out peeps we in for it. Franks Snow meter may never stop from early Nov through early April!

https://electroverse.net/the-arctics-ticking-climate-bomb-little-ice-age-imminent/

Not sure if you do podcasts but this one is pretty interesting Mugs. Might be right up your ally.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/190slemJsUXH5pEYR6DUbf?si=kW63M7izRy-k8t_8m3YuIg&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk

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Post by amugs Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:11 pm

SROC thanks for sharing g and I'll check it out!! Love this stuff. It has many times before and will again. We can not be ignorant to these cycles

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Post by amugs Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:12 pm

Wow what a gradient LOL!!
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Post by docstox12 Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:47 pm

Holy crow Mugs, gradient is right.No wonder the horse is dead, it froze to death.
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Post by SENJsnowman Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:46 am

I know this feels like a winter of discontent for many of you, so pardon my reveling at this moment. I don't think the coast has gone as long as one week since Jan 1 without a viable thread inside of day 5 to track. Absolutely amazing! Especially considering how lean and dicey the past three years were for us...

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Post by heehaw453 Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:52 am

amugs wrote:Wow what a gradient  LOL!!
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That would break the lowest temp ever recorded in Alaska (I'm sure there has been lower just not recorded). I believe it was -80F.

The lowest actual temperature – not wind chill – ever recorded in Alaska is minus 80 degrees. That was documented by a weather observer at Prospect Creek Camp on the morning of Jan. 23, 1971

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Post by SENJsnowman Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:59 am

Hey Coasties- keep an eye on Sunday now. Still too early to take this as a forecast, but the last 3 runs from the GFS match the very strong seasonal trend for the coast since Jan 1.

If this event does happens for us, expect another nice 12z/18z run today, followed immediately by a 00z wiper effect (out to sea). The GFS wipers has been a HUGE TREND and with an overwhelming positive result for us this season. I'm almost rooting for that at this point, because we've been enjoying this exact dance for much of the past 6 weeks!

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Post by SENJsnowman Wed Feb 09, 2022 9:01 am

BTW, notice the entire board gets at least a few inches as per the latest run...that trend ('last hour table scraps' increasing dramatically N and W) has also held strong throughout...

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Post by essexcountypete Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:21 am

Anyone else in South/Central Jersey feel ground shaking or hear a boom yesterday around 1:20-1:45 pm yesterday?

There are several reports, but seemingly no geological or meteorological reason for it...

https://twitter.com/DJLProjects/status/1491129652664205312?s=20&t=k_UQgP8sURpiZ4mcwbCgtA
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Post by heehaw453 Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:35 pm

You can count on a flush hit with this one.  I guarantee it.

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Post by HectorO Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:25 pm

As much of a spring and summer person that I am, I would like one more event. I want to go on a nice long snowy hike in the mountains around here. Much of this winter, the weather has actually been pretty cold, but there was lack of moisture.

Some areas upstate NY got it really good and after this past weekend, it seems like Vermont, really got pounded. We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. I have a feeling some big storm is lurking around the corner for the upper towns in NJ.
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Post by mmanisca Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:42 am

Hey all just wanted to get an opinion. I use Weatherbell for my maps and pay $25/month. I know some folks are using other services. Im wondering how they compare with weatherbell pricewise but also qualitywise..Any responses is greatly appreciated.
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Post by amugs Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:35 am

mmanisca wrote:Hey all just wanted to get an opinion. I use Weatherbell for my maps and pay $25/month. I know some folks are using other services. Im wondering how they compare with weatherbell pricewise but also qualitywise..Any responses is greatly appreciated.

I was a StormVista subscriber and they have great OP adn ENS maps depicting the precipitation field but their precipitation maps are not nearly as good as WxBell nor are tehir temps chart, teleconnections. I have found this to be and would like to hear others opinions as well on this. Thanks for bringing this up.


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Post by amugs Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:37 am

Crazy NEVER KNEW THIS!!!! It make sense to me now about the weather pattern, somewhat climate for these lands and the similarities.




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Post by amugs Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:38 am

Check out this chart on what a difference a year can make at this time.


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Post by mmanisca Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:56 am

amugs wrote:
mmanisca wrote:Hey all just wanted to get an opinion. I use Weatherbell for my maps and pay $25/month. I know some folks are using other services. Im wondering how they compare with weatherbell pricewise but also qualitywise..Any responses is greatly appreciated.

I was a StormVista subscriber and they have great OP adn ENS maps depicting the precipitation field but their precipitation maps are not nearly as good as WxBell nor are tehir temps chart, teleconnections. I have found this to be and would like to hear others opinions as well on this. Thanks for bringing this up.

Hey Thanks for the update. So it seems that in total you are finding weatherbell more comprehensive than storm Vista? I know some folks use Pivotal Weather and Im wondering how they stack up as well.
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Post by nutleyblizzard Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:02 pm

Other then a couple of moderate events it’s been an awful winter. Going to need a MECS in March just to get to normal annual snowfall, but not holding my breath on it. I’m already looking forward to a better setup next winter with an El Niño forcasted.
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Post by docstox12 Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:48 pm

Right now I am down to snowpack monitoring to keep myself occupied in this sparse N and W winter, lol..
Areas of the property that are shaded still have almost 6 inches OTG .Areas that get blasted by the sun are thinning down to where I am seeing grass.Overall, 85% snow cover.Areas around town that have been in the sun are bare of snow.Was in Mahwah and Fort Lee NJ today, no snowpack at all save for some piles.

Guys, remember Valentines Day is Monday.Hell to pay if you forget,LOL, especially hung over after the Super Bowl. I had a Super Bowl Party for 26 years, from 1988 to 2014 when I had my house in Mahwah before I was married.It started Friday Night and lasted through Monday moning.We called it the STUPOR Bowl Party,LOL.
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Post by jmanley32 Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:21 am

Absolutely hate this back and forth warm t-short weather and bone chilling cold, pick one of the other mother nature!! I would prefer spring like temps at this point, unless its going to snow more than a few inches.
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Post by jmanley32 Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:49 am

Cannot remember but I think I am nearing or over my normal yearly snowfall, at 20 inches give or take and a few dustings that I did not include.
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Post by heehaw453 Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:47 am

Bernie is an excellent Met.  Even the pros get humbled. The meso's sniffed this out though.


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