June 2024 Observations and Discussion
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June 2024 Observations and Discussion
First month of summer, longest daylight of the year, beginning of tropical season . . . . a lot on tap for this month. Very warm one out there today. 85* with plenty of sunshine.
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Such a beautiful morning...73 now but I see 86 on tap today and it looks like a good dose of rain Thursday. I am waiting for the mid-June warmup and keeping an eye on the Tropics.
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Important to point out te difference between hype and reality. And mom please dont take this as a knock on your post.
Id like to make a few points. First: nothing is boiling. The Caribbean as a whole is sitting about 1*C above Avg (between about 84-86*F or 29-30*C); keeping in mind avg is created by averaging routine above and below the "avg" value year after year, decade after decade.
Second point:
These temps DO NOT go down 300 feet! Any significant storm WILL cause up welling in its wake the extent of which is yet to be determined.
Third: SST is only one of MANY factors in determining IF a trop storm will develop, strengthen or weaken despite how warm the water is beneath it.
One final comment on Jmans post in the Tropical thread he started:(and I will copy and paste this post in there where we can cont any tropical discussion there) Keep in mind that in todays modern satellite era, esp over the past 25yrs, but more so in the last decade or so, storms that have no business being named are being named. We in here have seen and even discussed storms that get named for like 12 hrs out in the middle of the Atlantic that immediately recurve and dissipate. These storms would never have been even know about not more than 50-75 years ago. So keep that in mind this year when the global warming alarmists get on the bullhorn about how many more storms there are these days. In here throughout the tropical season regardless of how many named storms there are, let us remain level headed and not bring in unproven narratives cloaked as truths. Instead lets focus on what is actually happening in front of us.
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sroc4 wrote:weatherwatchermom wrote:dkodgis wrote:Such a beautiful morning...73 now but I see 86 on tap today and it looks like a good dose of rain Thursday. I am waiting for the mid-June warmup and keeping an eye on the Tropics.
Hello!
Not offended..I should have cropped the comments..I was just looking at how warm the water is..hope all is well
Speaking of the tropics saw this today
Important to point out te difference between hype and reality. And mom please dont take this as a knock on your post.
Id like to make a few points. First: nothing is boiling. The Caribbean as a whole is sitting about 1*C above Avg (between about 84-86*F or 29-30*C); keeping in mind avg is created by averaging routine above and below the "avg" value year after year, decade after decade.
Second point:
These temps DO NOT go down 300 feet! Any significant storm WILL cause up welling in its wake the extent of which is yet to be determined.
Third: SST is only one of MANY factors in determining IF a trop storm will develop, strengthen or weaken despite how warm the water is beneath it.
One final comment on Jmans post in the Tropical thread he started:(and I will copy and paste this post in there where we can cont any tropical discussion there) Keep in mind that in todays modern satellite era, esp over the past 25yrs, but more so in the last decade or so, storms that have no business being named are being named. We in here have seen and even discussed storms that get named for like 12 hrs out in the middle of the Atlantic that immediately recurve and dissipate. These storms would never have been even know about not more than 50-75 years ago. So keep that in mind this year when the global warming alarmists get on the bullhorn about how many more storms there are these days. In here throughout the tropical season regardless of how many named storms there are, let us remain level headed and not bring in unproven narratives cloaked as truths. Instead lets focus on what is actually happening in front of us.
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Yes! And I just changed the air cabin filter in my 2016 car. I was shocked how dirty it was and how it smelled of smoke. Bad bad bad. A year ago that smoked killed the sand in my pool filter too. Had to change it out. It was a bright orange color.
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Yep. That yellow-orange sky and the choking odor of smoke is still one of the weirdest weather-related things I've experienced. Hopefully that was a one-off and we don't have a repeat anytime this summer.
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Looks like a nice, sunny, warm weekend. Then next week we get our first legit heatwave of the season. High temps could be in the 90s all week starting Monday.
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I just wanted to follow up the below posts from the May Ons thread:
To be fair, the time-mean ridge did not pull as far back as I thought, which would have gotten us in the game by retracting the trough’s position as well. However, the idea of a stalled frontal boundary along/near the Eastern Seaboard with a prolonged flood threat was arguably not too far off, as that is what is leading to all of the flooding in Florida, and unsettled weather not far off the Southeast Coast now.
To be fair, the time-mean ridge did not pull as far back as I thought, which would have gotten us in the game by retracting the trough’s position as well. However, the idea of a stalled frontal boundary along/near the Eastern Seaboard with a prolonged flood threat was arguably not too far off, as that is what is leading to all of the flooding in Florida, and unsettled weather not far off the Southeast Coast now.
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Point being, it was a mediocre forecast, but for all of the hype you’re hearing now about the flooding, the signal was there for a serious threat along the East Coast well in advance for those who were looking for it.
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Just a beautiful day today. 75 and not humid. I cooked seafood out on the grill and watched a beautiful sunset. It had all the earmarks of summer. Speaking of summer, next week and beyond look to be right proper hot days. I have a friend who lives in Sacramento. He has a six month pool season. What do we have? 6 weeks?
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Re: June 2024 Observations and Discussion
Current 10-day forecast High Temps for next week:
M 90
T 96
W 96
Th 98
F 99
Sa 93
It's getting hot in here . . .
M 90
T 96
W 96
Th 98
F 99
Sa 93
It's getting hot in here . . .
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billg315 wrote:Current 10-day forecast High Temps for next week:
M 90
T 96
W 96
Th 98
F 99
Sa 93
It's getting hot in here . . .
disgusting...
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We should have a gambling tab on this site: Under/Over for highest High Temp next week in NJ: 99.5. Place your bets! lol
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billg315 wrote:We should have a gambling tab on this site: Under/Over for highest High Temp next week in NJ: 99.5. Place your bets! lol
This is actually a FANTASTIC over/under! Synoptically speaking, I think that this setup actually favors areas along and north/west of the Appalachian Chain, basically from the Central Plains, through the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, central and northern New England and then the southern tier of eastern Canada for the more widespread and more significantly anomalous heat. However, the urban heat island effect is real, especially at literally the peak of insolation. So, I think that areas along the I-95 Corridor will surpass the threshold (taking the over), but I think it will generally be hotter to the north and west of our region on the whole.
I can elaborate on this further tonight, though, if you want me to, but alas, lovely work awaits lol
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rb924119 wrote:billg315 wrote:We should have a gambling tab on this site: Under/Over for highest High Temp next week in NJ: 99.5. Place your bets! lol
This is actually a FANTASTIC over/under! Synoptically speaking, I think that this setup actually favors areas along and north/west of the Appalachian Chain, basically from the Central Plains, through the Great Lakes, Ohio Valley, central and northern New England and then the southern tier of eastern Canada for the more widespread and more significantly anomalous heat. However, the urban heat island effect is real, especially at literally the peak of insolation. So, I think that areas along the I-95 Corridor will surpass the threshold (taking the over), but I think it will generally be hotter to the north and west of our region on the whole.
I can elaborate on this further tonight, though, if you want me to, but alas, lovely work awaits lol
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Re: June 2024 Observations and Discussion
Up at beautiful Lake George in the Sagamore Resort with history back to the Gilded Age enjoying temps in the 70's with partly cloudy skies.Looks like I will be coming back to a torch next week! Been a while since a full week in the 90"s.Hopefully it will burn off the Gypsy Moth caterpillars eating my birch and oak tree leaves.
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billg315 wrote:Current 10-day forecast High Temps for next week:
M 90
T 96
W 96
Th 98
F 99
Sa 93
It's getting hot in here . . .
If my ac compressor could talk it would say "oh, my aching R 410"! HVAC guys will be smiling,LOL.
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Re: June 2024 Observations and Discussion
You are about 50 miles from me. The rain came, some thunder. As of 6:30 pm nothing much here but it looks ornery outside like it's going to happen soon.
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Very humid out starting to get dark, I hear thunder . We have no thunderstorm watches or warnings by me.
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OMG this looked like Sandy for 20 min, still have power. Strightline winds unreal.
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very rare to see pink and white on nws radar wow, 70-80-dbz...
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Heavy rain ️ now
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