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FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes?

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 am

GFS coming in slightly east of 18z at hr 108. Ridge a little bit weaker as well

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:06 am

Hr 120 looks like the ridge isn't pressing down as much on it. This could get a little further north this run

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:16 am

Or not. Stalls off NC coast

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:20 am

Oh this run is insane. Hasn't moved in 36 hours

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Post by weatherwatchermom Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:23 am

Sanchize06 wrote:Oh this run is insane. Hasn't moved in 36 hours
watching..can it really do that?
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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:25 am

50 hours now of it not going anywhere

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:26 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:
Sanchize06 wrote:Oh this run is insane. Hasn't moved in 36 hours
watching..can it really do that?

I doubt it, not for this length of time anyway

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Post by weatherwatchermom Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:30 am

Something has to be wrong with this run how could it be in same spot for 70 hrs??
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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:36 am

Only the GFS lol This obviously would never happen

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Post by SoulSingMG Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:39 am

Sanchize06 wrote:Only the GFS lol This obviously would never happen

Such a dumpster fire model. Despicable. I just heard the UKIE jumped east of Hatteras!? Haven't seen it yet so can't verify...
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Post by Grselig Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:39 am

But can it be the beginning of a trend or simply GFS error?
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Post by rb924119 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:41 am

Sanchize06 wrote:Only the GFS lol This obviously would never happen

The stall/retrograde/loop could for that time, but not at that intensity. That part is impossible.

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Post by Sanchize06 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:45 am

SoulSingMG wrote:
Sanchize06 wrote:Only the GFS lol This obviously would never happen

Such a dumpster fire model. Despicable. I just heard the UKIE jumped east of Hatteras!? Haven't seen it yet so can't verify...

That would join the GFS and ICON if it is east of Hatteras

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Post by sroc4 Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:53 am

Keep an eye on Helen or Isaac. Can’t tell by quick analysis but one of them ends up tugging on Florence from the east as she reaches OBx

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Post by jmanley32 Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:13 am

welll recon oinfo was in at 00z soooo...maybe a stall and then OTS far south of here is whats go happen. ICON has a curve back NW at hr 180 thats why looks ominous, if it isnt a blip and it continued it would slam right into the area.
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:33 am

Euro is night and day with gfs. He 120 quick landfall yet again further north into central nc now and well inland. So which one is right or are they both wrong? Levi put a video up. He fees hit area is Florida to nc. Bernie last I saw thinks nc to cape cod. So still a lot of uncertainty.
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Post by Math23x7 Sun Sep 09, 2018 3:17 am

The 0Z ECMWF OP is DEVASTATING for a good chunk of North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland.  Not only does a Category 3 make landfall in Wilmington, NC at 956 mb, but it stalls dumping FEET of rain to this region.  Given all the rain they've gotten lately, this would be a Harvey redux.

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Post by Joe Snow Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:05 am

Each of the points on the ensembles (spaghetti map) is a 6 hour time frame, Florence gets to the coast and crawls The blue is the forecast cone, but its trending more north of the cone. Current data.
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Post by jmanley32 Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:31 am

Math23x7 wrote:The 0Z ECMWF OP is DEVASTATING for a good chunk of North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland.  Not only does a Category 3 make landfall in Wilmington, NC at 956 mb, but it stalls dumping FEET of rain to this region.  Given all the rain they've gotten lately, this would be a Harvey redux.

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Thats scary to think, AND shes been progressively ticking more north, i mean maryland is not that far away, even 06z gfs which stays south still gives us a good dose of rain, now if she somehow made it up here and stuck around that would be bad. Not a cat 3 unless track changed drastically but still I keep remembering Irene.
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Post by sroc4 Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:41 am

I still think the European Model suite forecast(operational and ensembles) are underdoing the intensity of Florence; esp for the next 2 days.   If you look below at the current NHC forecast they have it intensify to Major status by about 60W longitude; however, notice the overwhelming majority of Ensembles members keep her as a >1000mb system(green) in this same time frame.  This likely results in a spread along the coast too far south overall.  

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I am with some of the others in that I believe a landfall will likely occur north of the current NHC forecast track, and believe the NHC forecast cone will cont to shift north as it has over the past 24hrs, and look something like this over the next few days.  

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Latest microwave imagery shows nice concentric rings around the center of circulation; expanding outward indicating much better organization and strengthening is occurring.  The latest sat imagery also indicates the convection cont to organizes around it as well.  

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You can really see the outflow arms really beginning to take shape in the SE, SW and NW quadrants indicating better structure and on her way to deepening. FLORENCE: East Coast Threat or Does She Sleep With the Fishes? - Page 10 TcmovieFinal

Only the NE quad lacks the outflow arm due to the shear environment it is still under.

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Post by sroc4 Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:15 am

"Eye" see you!!!!  She has been upgraded to hurricane once again. Off we go. Recon plane on its way to Florence


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Post by Quietace Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:26 am

sroc4 wrote:"Eye" see you!!!!  She has been upgraded to hurricane once again.  Off we go.  Recon plane on its way to Florence


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Agree with your previous disco. This will certainly reach Cat 5 strength sometime in the next few days. Certainly not a good look for those in its way.
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Post by jwalsh Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:24 am

Recon is in the storm

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Post by sroc4 Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:27 am

jwalsh wrote:Recon is in the storm

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Yup. Min pressure down to 983mb on the first pass with 70kt flight level winds found so far

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Post by mwilli5783 Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:34 am

twc is off the air...no weather recharge as of 10:20am

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Post by jwalsh Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:47 am

mwilli5783 wrote:twc is off the air...no weather recharge as of 10:20am
Same here, do you have Optimum? ESPN and NFL are down too
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