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Post by heehaw453 Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:10 pm

NYC as best I can tell has never had consecutive seasons with single digit snowfall. Anyone think that will be challenged this season? I say no way.

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Post by lja Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:41 pm

I would agree we have had no consecutive single digit snowfall seasons in NYC, but the late 90s had several winters of low double digit, well below average snow totals. Those were some painful years for snow lovers.

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Post by lja Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:43 pm

.....After 1996 of course, that was a great winter.

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Post by rb924119 Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:19 pm

heehaw453 wrote:I feel like it's been years since a nice SWFE (overrunning event) over a dome of arctic air gave us a simplistic slam dunk 4-8" of snow.  Anyone remember that kind of solution?

Scott (@sroc) should know - he beat me BAD on a forecast of one of these a couple years ago  Laughing  though I think that was more of a Monmouth County, NJ through Long Island and into southeastern New England event rather than a region wide event. Then there was that horrible bust by modeling in the Mid-Atlantic a few December’s ago during the football game in Philly. Supposed to get like 1-3” and they ended up with like 8”.

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Post by Irish Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:42 am

lja wrote:.....After 1996 of course, that was a great winter.

That was my senior year in High School, sure did enjoy the snow days!
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Post by Grselig Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:41 am

Irish wrote:
lja wrote:.....After 1996 of course, that was a great winter.

That was my senior year in High School, sure did enjoy the snow days!

That was memorable. What a great snow year!!

I compare that winter to the 1986 Mets and Giant's Superbowls (1986-87 season because I was a sophomore in high school - pre baseball strike and sports still brewed heroes for a 15 year old kid). Unforgettable years.

Seems like the Grinch is going to rule this winter, sadly.
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Post by Math23x7 Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:04 pm

I was browsing through the forum and realized something. Each page of the official weather talk section has 30 threads. The tab at the bottom of the first page is currently the November 2019 general discussion thread, which was over a year ago!. During the active winters, there would be dozens of threads in just months taking up several pages. And there would be multiple threads on just one event, with hundreds of posts in one day on one thread! That is not to be lately. And given the +EPO that could develop within the next couple of weeks, that quiet trend could continue. Perhaps this time next year, the first page could have the September 2020 thread. Who knows?

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Post by Irish Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:13 pm

Math23x7 wrote:I was browsing through the forum and realized something. Each page of the official weather talk section has 30 threads. The tab at the bottom of the first page is currently the November 2019 general discussion thread, which was over a year ago!. During the active winters, there would be dozens of threads in just months taking up several pages. And there would be multiple threads on just one event, with hundreds of posts in one day on one thread! That is not to be lately. And given the +EPO that could develop within the next couple of weeks, that quiet trend could continue. Perhaps this time next year, the first page could have the September 2020 thread. Who knows?

With how things have gone, winters just suck anymore. I used to love winter and the multiple storms we'd have. Once it started, there was snow on the ground, especially in parking lots where they bulldozed it, until May or later. Now, we don't even get snow and if we do, it's gone in a couple days.
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Post by sroc4 Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:31 am

rb924119 wrote:
heehaw453 wrote:I feel like it's been years since a nice SWFE (overrunning event) over a dome of arctic air gave us a simplistic slam dunk 4-8" of snow.  Anyone remember that kind of solution?

Scott (@sroc) should know - he beat me BAD on a forecast of one of these a couple years ago  Laughing  though I think that was more of a Monmouth County, NJ through Long Island and into southeastern New England event rather than a region wide event. Then there was that horrible bust by modeling in the Mid-Atlantic a few December’s ago during the football game in Philly. Supposed to get like 1-3” and they ended up with like 8”.

Lol Ray. I don’t recall specifically out dialing you per say in a forecast but I do remember the second half of Feb Into mid to late March of 2015 it was one SWFE after another involving LI, southern CT, RI region. It was that slam dunk 3-6”/4-8” event. At that time I was consistently beating Steve Dimartino. He refused to acknowledge the idea that the baroclinically driven enhancements to expected totals would win out. He was so stubborn in his forecast. Arctic frontal boundary frappes in the perfect position with weak LP riding along it and enhanced totals further East because of the temp gradient and the Atlantic moisture.  Here is the 500mb pattern from that time frame. It was beautiful. You can see my snow totals in my signature from that winter.

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Post by heehaw453 Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:32 pm

sroc4 wrote:
rb924119 wrote:
heehaw453 wrote:I feel like it's been years since a nice SWFE (overrunning event) over a dome of arctic air gave us a simplistic slam dunk 4-8" of snow.  Anyone remember that kind of solution?

Scott (@sroc) should know - he beat me BAD on a forecast of one of these a couple years ago  Laughing  though I think that was more of a Monmouth County, NJ through Long Island and into southeastern New England event rather than a region wide event. Then there was that horrible bust by modeling in the Mid-Atlantic a few December’s ago during the football game in Philly. Supposed to get like 1-3” and they ended up with like 8”.

Lol Ray. I don’t recall specifically out dialing you per say in a forecast but I do remember the second half of Feb Into mid to late March of 2015 it was one SWFE after another involving LI, southern CT, RI region. It was that slam dunk 3-6”/4-8” event. At that time I was consistently beating Steve Dimartino. He refused to acknowledge the idea that the baroclinically driven enhancements to expected totals would win out. He was so stubborn in his forecast. Arctic frontal boundary frappes in the perfect position with weak LP riding along it and enhanced totals further East because of the temp gradient and the Atlantic moisture.  Here is the 500mb pattern from that time frame. It was beautiful. You can see my snow totals in my signature from that winter.

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2014/15 was my last good meteorological winter. That year seemed most things broke right. Outside of a super March 2018 seems a struggle to make things break right since then.

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Post by HectorO Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:39 am

Reaching for the towels with all this talk about warming through early January coming up 😂. Last two seasons, I threw them in early and it worked in my favor... purely coincidence. While it may sound like we throw the towel early sometimes.... it's all about terminology. When we start talking about "going through a certain period" that lasts weeks, we now have to look past that for hope, so it rushes winter by.
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Post by Irish Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:26 am

HectorO wrote:Reaching for the towels with all this talk about warming through early January coming up 😂. Last two seasons, I threw them in early and it worked in my favor... purely coincidence. While it may sound like we throw the towel early sometimes.... it's all about terminology. When we start talking about "going through a certain period" that lasts weeks, we now have to look past that for hope, so it rushes winter by.

Agreed, I remember as a kid, even into my teen years, that it would always be cold when decorating for Christmas and onward. Now it's mid 60s in late November- early December while I decorate. Creates a real festive feel as I decorate in shorts.
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Post by amugs Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:44 pm

Sun has sent a flare our direction
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C7-class solar flare from sunspot AR2790 (Dec. 7th). UV radiation from the flare caused a minor shortwave radio blackout over South America. The blast may have hurled a CME toward Earth. If so tehre will be more affects to come.

Watch for volcanism/EQs & Polar weather changes

Affected area

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Post by HectorO Mon Dec 07, 2020 8:47 pm

amugs wrote:Sun has sent a flare our direction
From Grand Solar Minimum

C7-class solar flare from sunspot AR2790 (Dec. 7th). UV radiation from the flare caused a minor shortwave radio blackout over South America. The blast may have hurled a CME toward Earth. If so tehre will be more affects to come.

Watch for volcanism/EQs & Polar weather changes

I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.

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I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.

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Post by amugs Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:06 pm

HectorO wrote:
amugs wrote:Sun has sent a flare our direction
From Grand Solar Minimum

C7-class solar flare from sunspot AR2790 (Dec. 7th). UV radiation from the flare caused a minor shortwave radio blackout over South America. The blast may have hurled a CME toward Earth. If so tehre will be more affects to come.

Watch for volcanism/EQs & Polar weather changes

I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.

Affected area

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I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.


Wow thatnis awesome Hector!! Wish I saw this that is so cool

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Post by Irish Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:01 pm

HectorO wrote:
amugs wrote:Sun has sent a flare our direction
From Grand Solar Minimum

C7-class solar flare from sunspot AR2790 (Dec. 7th). UV radiation from the flare caused a minor shortwave radio blackout over South America. The blast may have hurled a CME toward Earth. If so tehre will be more affects to come.

Watch for volcanism/EQs & Polar weather changes

I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.

Affected area

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I just saw around 7:40pm what looked like a meteor rocketing across the sky. It was amazing.


I actually saw it as well. Was out relaxing in the hot tub and watched it zip by. Pretty cool.
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Post by Irish Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:18 pm

This is what I need and want!

https://youtu.be/vJQpsSX7Vfo

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Post by amugs Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:17 am

Wow how cool is this!!! Humpback Whale in NY Harbour

From ABC News

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Post by amugs Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:00 pm

Great video and information from David DuBuyne abouy the overlapping cycles and their affects on the planet.


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Post by amugs Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:04 pm

Geomagnetic storm tonight G3 level - here's the chart - CP, DOC and others maybe able to see this natural beauty!!

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Post by Dunnzoo Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:47 pm

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Borrowed from Margusity's twitter lol

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Post by weatherwatchermom Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:43 pm

amugs wrote:Geomagnetic storm tonight G3 level - here's the chart - CP, DOC and others maybe able to see this natural beauty!!

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We were to plan a trip to Iceland this year...will have to wait on that..so I got up a few times last night to peak nothing .if we were not in a pandemic. I would have driven north and gotten a room..lol. My husband has seen the Northern Lights. Top of my bucket list
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Post by weatherwatchermom Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:44 pm

Dunnzoo wrote:GrandSolarMinimum - Banter Thread 5.0 - Page 19 Eo506410


Borrowed from Margusity's twitter lol


lol! lol! lol!
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Post by jmanley32 Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:52 pm

weatherwatchermom wrote:
Dunnzoo wrote:GrandSolarMinimum - Banter Thread 5.0 - Page 19 Eo506410


Borrowed from Margusity's twitter lol


lol! lol! lol!
Heh, that is one purty map though, lets hope it comes true, its the least 2020 can do!
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Post by sabamfa Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:55 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:
amugs wrote:Geomagnetic storm tonight G3 level - here's the chart - CP, DOC and others maybe able to see this natural beauty!!

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We were to plan a trip to Iceland this year...will have to wait on that..so I got up a few times last night to peak nothing .if we were not in a pandemic. I would have driven north and gotten a room..lol. My husband has seen the Northern Lights. Top of my bucket list

My husband and I were thinking of going to Iceland for the Northern Lights this year as well. One day, when there’s no pandemic. Sigh.

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Post by Scullybutcher Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:45 pm

Now all we need is for Wednesday storm to disappear from all the maps, get everyone nervous that is what imaginary and then on Sunday night it comes back on board better then before.
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Post by Irish Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:14 pm

Scullybutcher wrote:Now all we need is for Wednesday storm to disappear from all the maps, get everyone nervous that is what imaginary and then on Sunday night it comes back on board better then before.

Do you want Manley to have a massive coronary between now and then?!?
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