12/16-12/17 Godzilla: Final Snow Map & Obsevations

heehaw453 wrote:prob have to wait for this 850 low to clear me to see good dendrite growth again.

anything else gonna come through NYC area southern Westchester? Or are we done. I hear a tiny bit sleet.

Just heavy snow now.

Temp dropped back to 26 from 27.1 and it looks like some decent radar returns are moving into the area. Hopefully I see something of significance.

jmanley32 wrote:

1190ftalt wrote:We are At 10.5 inches in Stillwater NJ at 1190 feet altitude,  took 3 different measurements, it is 19 degrees , it is currently blowing like crazy and snowing big time again !
Where is our fearless Mascot Mr Tissues ( sysnow) ?

he left 2 winters ago. He got over the top upset and just logged out and never came back. He was a good guy though just very passionate for his snow.

So he is stalking us, ok I get it.
Mr Tissues ( Sysno)  we know your watching, just sign in and get it over with, ok .......

The column has crashed. Back to snow here. Jman you can see the 850s crashing again. Once the 850 mb low moves out a little I'd expect a flip back to snow. how much precip is left in the tank is the question.

1190ftalt wrote:

jmanley32 wrote:

1190ftalt wrote:We are At 10.5 inches in Stillwater NJ at 1190 feet altitude,  took 3 different measurements, it is 19 degrees , it is currently blowing like crazy and snowing big time again !
Where is our fearless Mascot Mr Tissues ( sysnow) ?

he left 2 winters ago. He got over the top upset and just logged out and never came back. He was a good guy though just very passionate for his snow.

So he is stalking us, ok I get it.
Mr Tissues ( Sysno)  we know your watching, just sign in and get it over with, ok .......

no I don't think so he actually deleted his acct as far I remember. I don't get the 20 copies of what is that a beaver?

heehaw453 wrote:The column has crashed.  Back to snow here.  Jman you can see the 850s crashing again.  Once the 850 mb low moves out a little I'd expect a flip back to snow.  how much precip is left in the tank is the question.

yeah that's my concern that there won't be much left. If so I'll be around 6 inches which would be a big bust but still a ok storm.

jmanley32 wrote:

1190ftalt wrote:

jmanley32 wrote:

1190ftalt wrote:We are At 10.5 inches in Stillwater NJ at 1190 feet altitude,  took 3 different measurements, it is 19 degrees , it is currently blowing like crazy and snowing big time again !
Where is our fearless Mascot Mr Tissues ( sysnow) ?

he left 2 winters ago. He got over the top upset and just logged out and never came back. He was a good guy though just very passionate for his snow.

So he is stalking us, ok I get it.
Mr Tissues ( Sysno)  we know your watching, just sign in and get it over with, ok .......

no I don't think so he actually deleted his acct as far I remember. I don't get the 20 copies of what is that a beaver?

Sorry , Actually I only meant to send it one time ! That’s a Marmot or what we call a Whistle Pig in Colorado, friendly little Fellas !

based on radar and my surface temps I think i can squeak out at least 2" more. the coastal plain right now has near or slightly above freezing temps that will make it more difficult to accumulate.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:The model scorecard was virtually identical to that of Stella (3/14/17).

Well let's see tomorrow morning how that works out Mikey, because I ended up with 20.8 inches from Stella. I'm sitting at 7.4 inches right now, although I did just notice the snow has picked up in intensity some.

You hear any measurements from the Park yet?

NWS totals:

EWR: 5.5"
JFK: 3.8"
LGA: 5.6"
CPK: 6.5"

Interesting that CPK is the high-end outlier of the four for once. At any rate, from just one system in December, CPK exceeded the snow total of the entire 2019-20 season.

Here in Bellerose, I measured 4.8" about an hour ago. It figures that when I'm with my folks in Queens, my place in Albany is getting absolutely crushed and may exceed the 22" it got from the early-December snowstorm from last year.

Excellent high ratio snow growth right now. Coming down moderately with some heavier returns just over Allentown PA.

Math23x7 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:The model scorecard was virtually identical to that of Stella (3/14/17).

Well let's see tomorrow morning how that works out Mikey, because I ended up with 20.8 inches from Stella. I'm sitting at 7.4 inches right now, although I did just notice the snow has picked up in intensity some.

You hear any measurements from the Park yet?

NWS totals:

EWR: 5.5"
JFK: 3.8"
LGA: 5.6"
CPK: 6.5"

Interesting that CPK is the high-end outlier of the four for once.  At any rate, from just one system in December, CPK exceeded the snow total of the entire 2019-20 season.

Here in Bellerose, I measured 4.8" about an hour ago.  It figures that when I'm with my folks in Queens, my place in Albany is getting absolutely crushed and may exceed the 22" it got from the early-December snowstorm from last year.

That sucks. I read some crazy stat that when CPK receives more than 5" in December that it was over 30" for season some 90% of the time? I'm screwing this up I'm sure, but does it ring a bell?

9.0 inches even at 2AM and calling it a night.

Snowing at a better clip now and better snow growth but not great, yet.

Hoping to exceed 12 inches by morning. Good luck to all.

Hey CP, burning the midnight oil,LOL. Fell asleep at 10PM but succumbed to the "have to check the snow" bug and woke up 10 minutes ago.Glad to see 9 around here.Was really coming down heavy at 10 pm, looks moderate now.Looks like that central PA to upstate NY is getting the big band now.Heading back to bed, hopefully we get that 12.Radar seems to support another 3 or 4 hours of steady snow.Nighty night all.

heehaw453 wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

Math23x7 wrote:The model scorecard was virtually identical to that of Stella (3/14/17).

Well let's see tomorrow morning how that works out Mikey, because I ended up with 20.8 inches from Stella. I'm sitting at 7.4 inches right now, although I did just notice the snow has picked up in intensity some.

You hear any measurements from the Park yet?

NWS totals:

EWR: 5.5"
JFK: 3.8"
LGA: 5.6"
CPK: 6.5"

Interesting that CPK is the high-end outlier of the four for once.  At any rate, from just one system in December, CPK exceeded the snow total of the entire 2019-20 season.

Here in Bellerose, I measured 4.8" about an hour ago.  It figures that when I'm with my folks in Queens, my place in Albany is getting absolutely crushed and may exceed the 22" it got from the early-December snowstorm from last year.

That sucks.  I read some crazy stat that when CPK receives more than 5" in December that it was over 30" for season some 90% of the time?  I'm screwing this up I'm sure, but does it ring a bell?

They measured 6.5 inches.

No that stat isn't anywhere near 90%.

Historically the December average in NYC is 5 inches, for the 152 years of record keeping it's 5.4. There have been 83 Decembers with 5 or more inches of snow and 51 of those times have had 30 or more inches of snow. So 61.4% of the time it does bring on a winter of over 30 inches which is historically near their average.

docstox12 wrote:Hey CP, burning the midnight oil,LOL. Fell asleep at 10PM but succumbed to the "have to check the snow" bug and woke up 10 minutes ago.Glad to see 9 around here.Was really coming down heavy at 10 pm, looks moderate now.Looks like that central PA to upstate NY is getting the big band now.Heading back to bed, hopefully we get that 12.Radar seems to support another 3 or 4 hours of steady snow.Nighty night all.

Dry slot killed us Doc, plus the silent killer the dreaded warm nose even changed us to graupel with some sleet for a time even though it was 19 degrees.

If we still make our foot by morning though no complaints. Talk to you tomorrow buddy.

3 am and it looks like about 14 inches. Not snowing right now. Wind seems to be on vacation. So here it did catch up to give me some decent snow. The moral of the story: go to bed early and one misses all the fun

Here is Albany's radar:



They are getting snowfall rates of 6-8" per hour there, not unlike those Alex and Scott saw from "Nemo"

Back to a fine snow very windy 29.5*

It is amazing we got this much snow for the 500 mb low passing to our NW. it was more of an ice mixture with the snow. I am in Caldwell, NJ. If the upper level system was any stronger with a true cutting off low at 500 mb to our NW, we would have gotten an initial burst of snow, then to sleet and freezing rain, or more likely rain. Owe the snow we got from a weaker upper system!!

25* with some light snow here as morning breaks. Not sure it’s heavy enough to add to the totals but at least there are still some snowflakes coming down.

Nice little area of light snow (maybe a few moderate cells embedded) hanging on over NJ. Not gonna add much to totals but was glad to look out my window and still see some snow falling.  

I was wiped out yesterday and unfortunately slept through most of the storm.  I heard a lot of sleet on the windows somewhere around 9 or 10 pm last night.

7.5 inches on my deck this morning, not currently doing anything out there.

I haven't been outside to measure yet, but something must have happened while I was sleeping because the NWS estimated totals are now higher than any forecast I saw before I went to bed last night.

One thing that I’ve learned is people’s attention is always drawn to the high-end number of a snow forecast range and they tend to fixate on it (can’t tell you how many times I’ve told a friend or co-worker we’re getting 6-10” and after we get 6” they say ‘you said we were gonna get 10”!’)
Looking at Frank’s map, I think most people are at or very close to at least the low-ends. Maybe the 6-10 could have extended further into NW NJ where it dry slotted and sleeted - but even there I was forecast at 8-12 and got around 7”, so I call that close enough. On the whole though, I think the low-end forecasts for this storm ended up being pretty close to on-target for most people.

Still have a light snow falling here as we start to get some daylight.