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December 2023 Observations and Discussion

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Post by 1190ftalt Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:14 am

4:10 in am, snowing heavy flakes, cars covered pretty good sticking to grass not roads, 32 degrees!
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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:29 am

34 and mixing with snow. along and west of this line it probably has started to mix or turn over.

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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:53 am

33.5/33.3 Moderate snow. maybe i can get something measurable out of this. warm surface will be tough.

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Post by rb924119 Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:26 am

At least five, maybe six inches up here, and no, Scott, I’m not kidding this time. We changed way earlier than expected, and I can’t understand why. Every critical thickness and thermal analysis of the column that I can find was nowhere near cold enough to support snow as early as 0430z. Not a happy camper to have busted this badly.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:29 am

heehaw453 wrote:33.5/33.3 Moderate snow. maybe i can get something measurable out of this. warm surface will be tough.

Good luck...no where near temps to get any flakes. But weather did change from the balmy 60*into late yesterday and now 39* i forgot to check the rain gauge..will update later. Just let dog out but too early to be up...lol
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Post by rb924119 Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:47 am

Just stuck 5.5” on my truck bed and still snowing moderately, so we should get to 6” before all is said and done. Ground depth varies significantly, though, because it’s warm.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:58 am

37 degrees,rain, breezy.May see a few flakes here before it is over.
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Post by phil155 Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:38 am

some slushy rain drops in the mix here in Middlesex county if that counts as almost snow, LOL. Been a rough few years so we need to take what we can get

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Post by heehaw453 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:06 am

Seems well elevated areas over achieved. Better than I expected south of BGH area that's for sure.

I know elevated areas of MD reporting 3"+.

I came up empty, but it's remarkable that this is 4 observed snow falls in past 12 days or so. Now what will that mean come May 1 IMBY? Maybe the third single digit snowfall in 5 year span. Not sure but it's remarkable to see it snow this frequently this early.

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Post by aiannone Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:23 am

3.68” of rain in the bucket And still raining. Too bad this wasn’t snow lol.

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:27 am

5.5” in my gauge this am.

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Post by kalleg Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:30 am

Slept through whatever snow might have fallen in New Hope; light rain, 34* at 7:28...

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Post by rb924119 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:31 am

As the sun rises, here are a few pictures of the aftermath.

To heehaw’s point, one of our family friends has a little plowing business on the side. I’m in Greentown, elevation about 1800’ on average, and we have 5.5”. Down the mountain in Newfoundland, which is only a couple/three hundred feet lower, has near nothing according to our friend. So in the span of less than the length of a football field, accumulations drop from 5.5” to 1-2”. I’ve only ever seen that kind local variance a handful of times in my lifetime. So to those of us who actually put numbers out, we really didn’t bust that badly at all, except for the highest elevations.

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Post by docstox12 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:32 am

NICE, rb, you jackpotted there!
Light snow here now, roofs and lawn getting covered.First accumulating snow of the season.Nice mood flakes after the soaker.

Elevation is amazing as rb points out.I am up in an area over 700 feet and down the "hill" near the old Red Apple Rest, it's always 2 or 3 inches less of snow then up here.Or we have ice in the trees and down there is nothing.


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Post by rb924119 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:33 am

aiannone wrote:3.68” of rain in the bucket And still raining. Too bad this wasn’t snow lol.

Wow.

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sroc4 wrote:5.5” in my gauge this am.

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DOUBLE WOW! That’s crazy. #NAM’d told ya

Seriously, though, any flooding??

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Post by sroc4 Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:46 am

rb924119 wrote:
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DOUBLE WOW! That’s crazy. #NAM’d told ya

Seriously, though, any flooding??

Fortunately no. Unfortunately though a buddy who lives nearby said his basement was flooding at 1am.

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sroc4 wrote:
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DOUBLE WOW! That’s crazy. #NAM’d told ya

Seriously, though, any flooding??

Fortunately no. Unfortunately though a buddy who lives nearby said his basement was flooding at 1am.

Glad that you didn’t flood, but definitely sorry to hear about your friend 🫤 hopefully there isn’t much damage.

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Post by Frank_Wx Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:52 am

Good to see some board members get a coating to even a decent accumulation. When models started to trend toward the coastal idea, I had a feeling the interior portions of our region could benefit from that. Hope there was minimal flooding for everyone else!

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Post by brownie Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:06 am

A few flakes here starting around 7 am. Now it’s an hour later and it’s gone back to rain.  No accumulation other than small pockets of unmeasurable slush on my deck.

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Post by dkodgis Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:15 am

1.5 inches rain and very little wind. A non-event.
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Post by kalleg Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:29 am

Sun's out in New Hope, blue skies, a few clouds, 38*. Rain gauge says just under 3" fell here...

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Post by Dunnzoo Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:21 am

yawn, non-event here, 1.52" of rain here, not much wind overnight either. I was up half the night worrying about flooding and nada. We were forecast to get 2-3" of rain late even after the models were showing the heavy precip shifting east of NYC. Looks like wind is picking up now as we start to clear out.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:50 am

Sun is out still a little breezy..we ended up with 4.5 inches of rain! wow
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Post by amugs Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:57 am

And a trace in Baltimore and Philly argghhh!!

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11:00 am and 36 degrees, finished with 1 1/2 inch snow on cars and maybe inch on grass, no sticking to road or side walk so no snow shoveling!December 2023 Observations and Discussion - Page 7 464eff10
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Post by GreyBeard Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:44 am

sroc4 wrote:5.5” in my gauge this am.

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Amazing how you can hold your rain gauge horizontally like that without spilling any water Smile

How were the winds out your way?

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