Blizzard of 2016 Final Snow Totals

amugs wrote:

skinsfan1177 wrote:I'm hearing the flooding down in cape may was worse than Sandy.

Yes there Wildwood, Vetnor, Margate, Atlantic City - mostly Cape May county and Atlantic due to the fact the storm stalled off the Del Marva/Md coastline and that was teh  ground zero yu can say above teh SLP that piled teh water up - not to take away from other areas but this area seemed to be teh hardest hit of the NJ coastline.

Again the fat bufoon is comparing it to Sandy which made landfall - can't compare them - typical PC BS.

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/01/24/governor-christie-jersey-shore-officials-have-different-views-on-winter-storm-damage/

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2016/01/23/christie-sea-isle-avalon-stone-harbor-got-little-water-during-sandy/

Photos to view - Not bad right???

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/photo-galleries/2016/01/23/2016-blizzard-causes-extreme-flooding/

Yes Cape May county got it worse than Sandy, mostly due to the fact that this storm stalled in a position that pushed a lot of water and high winds (north easterly) into that area meanwhile as Sandy approached and the worst flooding occured in the ACY and north shores those areas had the strong easterly flow (as did we inland north of storms path) meanwhile south (of ACY) had a westerly flow keeping the worst of the flooding at bay and actually sucking some of the inital floodwaters out at and after landfall.

I will say (although for the shores sake, its a VERY good thing) that I wasnt overall very impressed with the winds in my area from this storm. Overall was sustained probably 10-25mph gusts in the 30s to 40s but I was expecting more like a peak sustained in the 30s and gusts to 60 from what the models were outputting. However they often overdue wind so its not surprising. Sandy was the truly impressive wind event with sustained winds in the 40-50mph+ range and hit max gusts in the 80s as I recall. Truly amazing. Would NOT have wanted to lose power for 7 days in a storm like that winter version with these temps though. That would be a disaster.

Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Got pummeled haha, family in Tenafly and also where I was at during it got 24 or 25 inches I believe. Definitely wasn't expecting that. During the day when they kept upping the totals I was like great..... I spent hours digging yesterday and had to go dig my in-laws out too. If we get something this week hops its not as much. I have some work to do on the car.

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Yes Kocin said 7.49 NESIS CAT 4 -= 1996 remains king and will for a long time in my book.

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Preliminary guess is about 7.5 nesis cat 4 far from finalized. Mosty because the storm didnt get far enough to work heavy snow into the Boston metro like 96 was able to, just got moderate snow there they were on the cutoff.

amugs wrote:

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Yes Kocin said 7.49 NESIS CAT 4 -= 1996 remains king and will for a long time in my book.

Agreed, 1996 was amazing... followed by PD2 in 2003 in my book!

NjWeatherGuy wrote:

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Preliminary guess is about 7.5 nesis cat 4 far from finalized. Mosty because the storm didnt get far enough to work heavy snow into the Boston metro like 96 was able to, just got moderate snow there they were on the cutoff.

If that number holds, still a top 4 or 5 I think as far as the #'s go

28.5" Livingston nj

NjWeatherGuy wrote:

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Preliminary guess is about 7.5 nesis cat 4 far from finalized. Mosty because the storm didnt get far enough to work heavy snow into the Boston metro like 96 was able to, just got moderate snow there they were on the cutoff.

I thought the 96 storm just nicked Boston. I didn't think they even got double digits, my memory may be off though

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

NjWeatherGuy wrote:

Radz wrote:Anyone know if a NESIS value and/or ranking for this storm was done yet?

Preliminary guess is about 7.5 nesis cat 4 far from finalized. Mosty because the storm didnt get far enough to work heavy snow into the Boston metro like 96 was able to, just got moderate snow there they were on the cutoff.

I thought the 96 storm just nicked Boston. I didn't think they even got double digits, my memory may be off though

Nope, around 18"

http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/1996/07-Jan-96.html

This storm was very, very similar, just with the north end a bit more squashed and steep cutoff due to further south low, mostly noticeable into SNE. 96 closed off of NJ and moved east from there, a little more northern progress 2016 made.

I don't think anyone has given due credit to NJ alias Tom for giving most of us the recent Blizzard. Tom prompted Snow247 to take down the "will it be a January to remember" banner from the January observations thread about 10 days ago. The blizzard immediately showed up on the models and the January to forget then produced a storm to remember.

Well done NJ, and snow247 please learn from this, no more of your vodoo please.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I don't think anyone has given due credit to NJ alias Tom for giving most of us the recent Blizzard. Tom prompted Snow247 to take down the "will it be a January to remember" banner from the January observations thread about 10 days ago. The blizzard immediately showed up on the models and the January to forget then produced a storm to remember.

Well done NJ, and snow247 please learn from this, no more of your vodoo please.

Damn, I was trying to figure out the reason why this blizzard materialized out of the gloom and doom of early January.A blind man could have seen it.The genius of CP at work AGAIN.

CP, if I had 100 guys like you, I'd take over the world,LOL!!!!!

Just found NWS report trained spotter yonkers got 20.5, 0.5 less than boxing day blizzard not too shabby. Been a long time other than boxing day that we got that much from one storm. Its amazing though that only a few miles south in the Bronx places got 6 more inches.

docstox12 wrote:

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I don't think anyone has given due credit to NJ alias Tom for giving most of us the recent Blizzard. Tom prompted Snow247 to take down the "will it be a January to remember" banner from the January observations thread about 10 days ago. The blizzard immediately showed up on the models and the January to forget then produced a storm to remember.

Well done NJ, and snow247 please learn from this, no more of your vodoo please.

Damn, I was trying to figure out the reason why this blizzard materialized out of the gloom and doom of early January.A blind man could have seen it.The genius of CP at work AGAIN.

CP, if I had 100 guys like you, I'd take over the world,LOL!!!!!

I thought it was skins bowing to the snow Gods! Lol

jmanley32 wrote:Just found NWS report trained spotter yonkers got 20.5, 0.5 less than boxing day blizzard not too shabby.  Been a long time other than boxing day that we got that much from one storm.  Its amazing though that only a few miles south in the Bronx places got 6 more inches.

That's one way to sugarcoat it I suppose but most Bronx reports were 27-30 inches Central Park was 26.8 laguardia 27.9 and JFK 30.5. Let's face it JMAN you got hosed. Of course not nearly as bad as most of the HV.

Also short memory January 26 2011 19 inches in CPK. Febraury 26 2010 21 inches in CPK and of course Boxing Day as you mentioned 20.0 inches even although we all know it was over two feet.

jmanley32 wrote:Just found NWS report trained spotter yonkers got 20.5, 0.5 less than boxing day blizzard not too shabby.  Been a long time other than boxing day that we got that much from one storm.  Its amazing though that only a few miles south in the Bronx places got 6 more inches.

yes jman that seems accurate. I measured 20" here. we ended up between two heavy bands one over the city and one over rockland/nw n.j. for many hours from late morning thru early afternoon.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:I don't think anyone has given due credit to NJ alias Tom for giving most of us the recent Blizzard. Tom prompted Snow247 to take down the "will it be a January to remember" banner from the January observations thread about 10 days ago. The blizzard immediately showed up on the models and the January to forget then produced a storm to remember.

Well done NJ, and snow247 please learn from this, no more of your vodoo please.

Ahaha CP thats great, I liked the setup from the beginning and wish I went with a forecast on this one but ive been slammed with work and have yet to install my map software on my new computer. The other guys did great with that and I was just trying to keep anyone from jinxing it and throwing in my 2 cents every once in a while. The NAM was on to something being dead consistent every run and should have not been ignored for so long by everyone, thats why this ended up like 1996 with busted forecasts and way higher totals although I dont recall the reason in 96 why the forecast was wrong but i assume it was a similar reason. So I guess we all learned if the NAM is consistent and is not flip floppy and has agreement from other short range models, look out. But if its completely by itself its probably goofy as usual.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

jmanley32 wrote:Just found NWS report trained spotter yonkers got 20.5, 0.5 less than boxing day blizzard not too shabby.  Been a long time other than boxing day that we got that much from one storm.  Its amazing though that only a few miles south in the Bronx places got 6 more inches.

That's one way to sugarcoat it I suppose but most Bronx reports were 27-30 inches Central Park was 26.8 laguardia 27.9 and JFK 30.5. Let's face it JMAN you got hosed. Of course not nearly as bad as most of the HV.

Also short memory January 26 2011 19 inches in CPK. Febraury 26 2010 21 inches in CPK and of course Boxing Day as you mentioned 20.0 inches even although we all know it was over two feet.

I showed some pics i took around here to a few ppl at work who live in in northern Westchester and points north. They were in shock.  Then they got why half the people who live futher south didnt show up.
Even relatively close places like White Plains its business as usual. There is signifant snow but nothing crippling like 10 miles south.

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:

jmanley32 wrote:Just found NWS report trained spotter yonkers got 20.5, 0.5 less than boxing day blizzard not too shabby.  Been a long time other than boxing day that we got that much from one storm.  Its amazing though that only a few miles south in the Bronx places got 6 more inches.

That's one way to sugarcoat it I suppose but most Bronx reports were 27-30 inches Central Park was 26.8 laguardia 27.9 and JFK 30.5. Let's face it JMAN you got hosed. Of course not nearly as bad as most of the HV.

Also short memory January 26 2011 19 inches in CPK. Febraury 26 2010 21 inches in CPK and of course Boxing Day as you mentioned 20.0 inches even although we all know it was over two feet.

Nothing will ever be worse than the BDB cutoff. 6-8" IMBY and bald spots in grass, most of lawn was around 5-7" some higher drifts, forecast was Blizzard Warning 14-20 I believe same forecast as this last storm. Just 6 miles mapped to my east the forecast verified with 16-18" totals over in the Franklin/Kendall Park area. Heavy bands hands hit a brick wall to the east of my area (saw it happening live via RUC trends) and never pushed west over the dry air. Storm track swung too far east and kept me in moderate and light snows the whole storm and got screwed big time.

Looks like Jonas ended up a Nesis 4.  Here was Joe D'Aleo's write up about it this morning:
January 27 06:53 AM

Before the season, we showed how the high impact snowstorms have increased dramatically the last decade. 25 have occurred this past 10 years after averaging 5-8 in prior decades. We added a new one this past week, a Category 4 (Crippling) event that the WSJ estimated will cause a $16B hit to the economy.


January 2016 snowstorm was a Category 4 (crippling) event

It is the 58th NESIS high impact eastern snowstorms since the middle 1950s.

Susan Osborne, NOAA

From Arkansas up through New Hampshire(NOT REALLY), the January 22–24, 2016, snowstorm affected nearly 103 million people—around one-third of the entire U.S. population. The storm dumped over 20 inches of snow on 21 million people in the Northeast and over 10 inches on about 5.6 million people in the Southeast. But, how did this snowstorm compare to the most historic storms in these two regions?

The map above shows snowfall totals for the January storm ranging from less than 2 inches (light gray) to more than 24 inches (red). Many urban areas from the Ohio Valley to the Northeast received more than 6 inches of snow, and several of the Mid-Atlantic’s largest cities—including Washington, D.C., Baltimore, and Philadelphia—received well over a foot. Virtually all of West Virginia saw snow totals in the 12-18 inches range, with the eastern mountains and panhandle closer to 2 feet.

These snow totals—and how frequently snow events of that magnitude occur in a particular region—are one of the criteria that scientists at NOAA’s National Center for Environmental Information use to place storms into historical context. Their Regional Snowfall Index, which ranks snowstorms on a scale from 1 to 5, also takes into account how large an area was affected, and the population in that area.

The Northeast

In the Northeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 17.758, which makes it a Category 4, or “crippling,” event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks sixth out of the 199 snowstorms since 1900 that NCEI has analyzed for the Northeast, and it is the second most severe Category 4 storm to affect the region. Even though the overall footprint of the storm in the Northeast was not large by historic standards, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting nearly 59 million people, the late February snowstorm of 1969 remains the strongest storm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 34.026 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 22.117 also making it a Category 5 event.

The Southeast

In the Southeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 12.616, which also makes it a Category 4 or crippling event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks 14th out of the 153 snowstorms since 1900 that we’ve analyzed for the Southeast. Around 3.4 million people in the region saw over 15 inches of snow—in RSI terms, 15 inches in the Southeast is equivalent to 30 inches or more in the Northeast. As in the Northeast, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting over 31 million people, the early January snowstorm of 1996 remains the strongest storm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 26.373 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 24.433 also making it a Category 5 event.

sroc4 wrote:Looks like Jonas ended up a Nesis 4.  Here was Joe D'Aleo's write up about it this morning:
January 27 06:53 AM

Before the season, we showed how the high impact snowstorms have increased dramatically the last decade. 25 have occurred this past 10 years after averaging 5-8 in prior decades. We added a new one this past week, a Category 4 (Crippling) event that the WSJ estimated will cause a $16B hit to the economy.


January 2016 snowstorm was a Category 4 (crippling) event

It is the 58th NESIS high impact eastern snowstorms since the middle 1950s.

Susan Osborne, NOAA

From Arkansas up through New Hampshire(NOT REALLY), the January 22–24, 2016, snowstorm affected nearly 103 million people—around one-third of the entire U.S. population. The storm dumped over 20 inches of snow on 21 million people in the Northeast and over 10 inches on about 5.6 million people in the Southeast. But, how did this snowstorm compare to the most historic storms in these two regions?

The map above shows snowfall totals for the January storm ranging from less than 2 inches (light gray) to more than 24 inches (red). Many urban areas from the Ohio Valley to the Northeast received more than 6 inches of snow, and several of the Mid-Atlantic’s largest cities—including Washington, D.C., Baltimore, and Philadelphia—received well over a foot. Virtually all of West Virginia saw snow totals in the 12-18 inches range, with the eastern mountains and panhandle closer to 2 feet.

These snow totals—and how frequently snow events of that magnitude occur in a particular region—are one of the criteria that scientists at NOAA’s National Center for Environmental Information use to place storms into historical context. Their Regional Snowfall Index, which ranks snowstorms on a scale from 1 to 5, also takes into account how large an area was affected, and the population in that area.

The Northeast

In the Northeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 17.758, which makes it a Category 4, or “crippling,” event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks sixth out of the 199 snowstorms since 1900 that NCEI has analyzed for the Northeast, and it is the second most severe Category 4 storm to affect the region. Even though the overall footprint of the storm in the Northeast was not large by historic standards, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting nearly 59 million people, the late February snowstorm of 1969 remains the strongest storm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 34.026 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 22.117 also making it a Category 5 event.

The Southeast

In the Southeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 12.616, which also makes it a Category 4 or crippling event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks 14th out of the 153 snowstorms since 1900 that we’ve analyzed for the Southeast. Around 3.4 million people in the region saw over 15 inches of snow—in RSI terms, 15 inches in the Southeast is equivalent to 30 inches or more in the Northeast. As in the Northeast, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting over 31 million people, the early January snowstorm of 1996 remains the strongest storm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 26.373 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 24.433 also making it a Category 5 event.

Decadal chart is impressive, wow.

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sroc4 wrote:Looks like Jonas ended up a Nesis 4.  Here was Joe D'Aleo's write up about it this morning:
January 27 06:53 AM

Before the season, we showed how the high impact snowstorms have increased dramatically the last decade. 25 have occurred this past 10 years after averaging 5-8 in prior decades. We added a new one this past week, a Category 4 (Crippling) event that the WSJ estimated will cause a $16B hit to the economy.


January 2016 snowstorm was a Category 4 (crippling) event

It is the 58th NESIS high impact eastern snowstorms since the middle 1950s.

Susan Osborne, NOAA

From Arkansas up through New Hampshire(NOT REALLY), the January 22–24, 2016, snowstorm affected nearly 103 million people—around one-third of the entire U.S. population. The storm dumped over 20 inches of snow on 21 million people in the Northeast and over 10 inches on about 5.6 million people in the Southeast. But, how did this snowstorm compare to the most historic storms in these two regions?

The map above shows snowfall totals for the January storm ranging from less than 2 inches (light gray) to more than 24 inches (red). Many urban areas from the Ohio Valley to the Northeast received more than 6 inches of snow, and several of the Mid-Atlantic’s largest cities—including Washington, D.C., Baltimore, and Philadelphia—received well over a foot. Virtually all of West Virginia saw snow totals in the 12-18 inches range, with the eastern mountains and panhandle closer to 2 feet.

These snow totals—and how frequently snow events of that magnitude occur in a particular region—are one of the criteria that scientists at NOAA’s National Center for Environmental Information use to place storms into historical context. Their Regional Snowfall Index, which ranks snowstorms on a scale from 1 to 5, also takes into account how large an area was affected, and the population in that area.

The Northeast

In the Northeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 17.758, which makes it a Category 4, or “crippling,” event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks sixth out of the 199 snowstorms since 1900 that NCEI has analyzed for the Northeast, and it is the second most severe Category 4 storm to affect the region. Even though the overall footprint of the storm in the Northeast was not large by historic standards, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting nearly 59 million people, the late February snowstorm of 1969 remains the strongest storm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 34.026 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 22.117 also making it a Category 5 event.

The Southeast

In the Southeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 12.616, which also makes it a Category 4 or crippling event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks 14th out of the 153 snowstorms since 1900 that we’ve analyzed for the Southeast. Around 3.4 million people in the region saw over 15 inches of snow—in RSI terms, 15 inches in the Southeast is equivalent to 30 inches or more in the Northeast. As in the Northeast, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting over 31 million people, the early January snowstorm of 1996 remains the strongest storm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 26.373 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 24.433 also making it a Category 5 event.

Tiny red dot in CNJ confirms my 30"+ totals here where it seemed like there was less snow just to my north in Hboro. Got some lucky banding here and didnt get the usual snow holes IMBY with storms.

NjWeatherGuy wrote:

sroc4 wrote:Looks like Jonas ended up a Nesis 4.  Here was Joe D'Aleo's write up about it this morning:
January 27 06:53 AM

Before the season, we showed how the high impact snowstorms have increased dramatically the last decade. 25 have occurred this past 10 years after averaging 5-8 in prior decades. We added a new one this past week, a Category 4 (Crippling) event that the WSJ estimated will cause a $16B hit to the economy.


January 2016 snowstorm was a Category 4 (crippling) event

It is the 58th NESIS high impact eastern snowstorms since the middle 1950s.

Susan Osborne, NOAA

From Arkansas up through New Hampshire(NOT REALLY), the January 22–24, 2016, snowstorm affected nearly 103 million people—around one-third of the entire U.S. population. The storm dumped over 20 inches of snow on 21 million people in the Northeast and over 10 inches on about 5.6 million people in the Southeast. But, how did this snowstorm compare to the most historic storms in these two regions?

The map above shows snowfall totals for the January storm ranging from less than 2 inches (light gray) to more than 24 inches (red). Many urban areas from the Ohio Valley to the Northeast received more than 6 inches of snow, and several of the Mid-Atlantic’s largest cities—including Washington, D.C., Baltimore, and Philadelphia—received well over a foot. Virtually all of West Virginia saw snow totals in the 12-18 inches range, with the eastern mountains and panhandle closer to 2 feet.

These snow totals—and how frequently snow events of that magnitude occur in a particular region—are one of the criteria that scientists at NOAA’s National Center for Environmental Information use to place storms into historical context. Their Regional Snowfall Index, which ranks snowstorms on a scale from 1 to 5, also takes into account how large an area was affected, and the population in that area.

The Northeast

In the Northeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 17.758, which makes it a Category 4, or “crippling,” event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks sixth out of the 199 snowstorms since 1900 that NCEI has analyzed for the Northeast, and it is the second most severe Category 4 storm to affect the region. Even though the overall footprint of the storm in the Northeast was not large by historic standards, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting nearly 59 million people, the late February snowstorm of 1969 remains the strongest storm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 34.026 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Northeast, with an RSI value of 22.117 also making it a Category 5 event.

The Southeast

In the Southeast, the RSI value for the January 22–24 snowstorm is 12.616, which also makes it a Category 4 or crippling event for the region. With that value, the storm ranks 14th out of the 153 snowstorms since 1900 that we’ve analyzed for the Southeast. Around 3.4 million people in the region saw over 15 inches of snow—in RSI terms, 15 inches in the Southeast is equivalent to 30 inches or more in the Northeast. As in the Northeast, some of the heaviest snow fell on highly populated areas, driving the high RSI value.

Affecting over 31 million people, the early January snowstorm of 1996 remains the strongest storm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 26.373 making it a Category 5 or extreme event. The March 1993 “Storm of the Century” remains the second strongest snowstorm to hit the Southeast, with an RSI value of 24.433 also making it a Category 5 event.

Tiny red dot in CNJ confirms my 30"+ totals here where it seemed like there was less snow just to my north in Hboro. Got some lucky banding here and didnt get the usual snow holes IMBY with storms.

Tom Ive known you to talk about your snow hole since the accuweather board and I can honestly say I am VERY happy you got jackpotted.

^That makes two of us, not that its sticking around a hell of a long time but who cares. Storm was worth it. I was surprised it didnt score higher based on the amount of 30"+ area, much more than 96, probably second highest since 93, no?  My guess is because DC/NYV was only on the outside edges of that, Philly got  much less, and Boston only got light snow.