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Post by sroc4 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:28 am

NAM conts to come in more amped for Thursday.

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Post by sroc4 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:33 am

There is also a dual jet streak structure that could create enhanced vertical motion and some short term meso banding that enhances totals for some areas. The JS to the NE is weak but the area is in the R rear quad. But the JS to the SE is a tad stronger and our area is ion the L front Qaud. Again some sneaky-ness afoot with this IMHO

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Post by sroc4 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:34 am

sroc4 wrote:NAM conts to come in more amped for Thursday.

It looked more amped at 500 but the snowfall totals not reflecting. Either way my same ideas hold

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:49 am

Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.

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Post by amugs Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:54 am

Great points made by my man Billy.
HRRR did so much better with the last storm that any other model with teh LLC and position of the ULL and SLP. Could be right again? Time will tell.
GSF comes in about the same.

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Post by weatherwatchermom Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:57 am

Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
Good morning 🌞 have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?
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Post by sroc4 Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:14 am

weatherwatchermom wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
Good morning 🌞 have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?

Midnight-2/3am start time

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Post by weatherwatchermom Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:33 am

sroc4 wrote:
weatherwatchermom wrote:
Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
Good morning 🌞 have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?

Midnight-2/3am start time

thank you!
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Post by amugs Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:45 am

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From weatherwiz wx. He shows the the frontogenesis in the red area and believes it will help enhance the snowfall to the 2-4" range in this region. We'll see.

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Post by Frank_Wx Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:04 pm

amugs wrote:January 2022 Obs & Discussions - Page 12 FJZLF5JXMAATTYU?format=jpg&name=900x900

From weatherwiz wx. He shows the the frontogenesis in the red area and believes it will help enhance the snowfall to the 2-4" range in this region. We'll see.

If a >3” snowfall does happen I think it’s in this outlined area not including NYC, LI, CNJ and SEPA

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Post by heehaw453 Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:30 pm

NAM is robust.  This may turn into a moderate event...

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Post by amugs Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:48 pm

NAMMMMM!!!! That is all.
Here may in lie the issue we get a more robust storm Thursday we kick Saturday South from CNJ N it might seem. Heights may not have enough time to recoup UNLESS it delays to Sunday. Just an observation.

But DO - delayed openings and possible closings at play.
Got to love the ones that were not on the radar but found under the pile.


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Post by amugs Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:02 pm

Pretty Juicy for 3K NAM.

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Post by amugs Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:57 pm

Ya'll concentrated on Saturday with a fickle switch and this is what will bring ubsome goods. 2-4" plus possible as HRRR gives us about 6 hours of moderate snows. Globals sucks at Mesos Anafront systems. Ride the SR mesos

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Post by hyde345 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:01 pm

HRRR 00Z

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Post by jmanley32 Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:47 pm

hyde345 wrote:HRRR 00Z

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Looks like ill see 2-4 here in CT will look awesome from the 28th floor at mohegan sun!
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Post by jmanley32 Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:36 am

Take a look at 06z 3km NAM, last 3 runs have trended further and further south and now it starts as rain for all and maybe a coating to an inch, 2-4 does not look like its happening N/W of NYC in face they see little to nothing. Things just do not want to work in our favor this year sheesh.
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Post by dkodgis Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:06 am

15 degrees this morning. The red probability percentages are a thing of beauty.
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Post by docstox12 Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:29 am

17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:52 am

docstox12 wrote:17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.

Sounds about right Doc. A couple of the short range models have us at 3-4 inches which we'd take for the win if it ever happened with this system.
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Post by docstox12 Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:02 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:
docstox12 wrote:17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.

Sounds about right Doc. A couple of the short range models have us at 3-4 inches which we'd take for the win if it ever happened with this system.

Whatever we get CP will be a nice snowpack freshener before we turn much colder.Get your snowpack days counter up and running my good man!
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Post by amugs Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:08 am

17* for my low and looks to be a couple of inches of white gold for tomorrow morning at best. Models have trended drier as the norm so far this season. We'll see what our SR guidance says today if they juice it up.
Saturday storm is gone, its in Va Beach even DC seems to get skunked, WTH? Va Beach the snow snow capitol of the EC?? Please dont say well they deserve it yada yada yada.

Here is a GIF of the NAM - gonna be a messy commute. Delayed opening are possible in CNJ & NNJ if this verifies.

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Post by amugs Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:10 am

NWS upped tehir total from 1" yesterday to........1.9-2" - how about that for a spread LOL. Better than nothing!

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Post by amugs Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:28 am

IF it verifies it woudl be a nice little event.

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Post by Frank_Wx Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:44 am

12z NAM is not cooling fast enough which causes the coast to start as rain before changing to snow later Thursday morning. That is going to cut down on the totals there, but N&W should stay all snow.

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Post by amugs Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:19 am

BOOK it Dan O! - remember that show my fellow AARers?
HREF is a great SR compilation tool

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