January 2022 Obs & Discussions
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
NAM conts to come in more amped for Thursday.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
There is also a dual jet streak structure that could create enhanced vertical motion and some short term meso banding that enhances totals for some areas. The JS to the NE is weak but the area is in the R rear quad. But the JS to the SE is a tad stronger and our area is ion the L front Qaud. Again some sneaky-ness afoot with this IMHO
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
sroc4 wrote:NAM conts to come in more amped for Thursday.
It looked more amped at 500 but the snowfall totals not reflecting. Either way my same ideas hold
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
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Great points made by my man Billy.
HRRR did so much better with the last storm that any other model with teh LLC and position of the ULL and SLP. Could be right again? Time will tell.
HRRR did so much better with the last storm that any other model with teh LLC and position of the ULL and SLP. Could be right again? Time will tell.
GSF comes in about the same.HRRR is a bit more enthusiastic than global's, gotta watch for strength of 500mb cyclonic vort riding this frontal boundary pic.twitter.com/yTW7P8u6p3
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Good morning have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
weatherwatchermom wrote:Good morning have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
Midnight-2/3am start time
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
sroc4 wrote:weatherwatchermom wrote:Good morning have not been paying attention do you have an idea is this an overnight start?Frank_Wx wrote:Going with a C-2" Thursday morning across the tri-state. Obviously N&W will see better stickage and accumulation, possibly isolated 3-4" amounts.
Midnight-2/3am start time
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
From weatherwiz wx. He shows the the frontogenesis in the red area and believes it will help enhance the snowfall to the 2-4" range in this region. We'll see.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
amugs wrote:
From weatherwiz wx. He shows the the frontogenesis in the red area and believes it will help enhance the snowfall to the 2-4" range in this region. We'll see.
If a >3” snowfall does happen I think it’s in this outlined area not including NYC, LI, CNJ and SEPA
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
NAMMMMM!!!! That is all.
Here may in lie the issue we get a more robust storm Thursday we kick Saturday South from CNJ N it might seem. Heights may not have enough time to recoup UNLESS it delays to Sunday. Just an observation.
But DO - delayed openings and possible closings at play.
Got to love the ones that were not on the radar but found under the pile.
Here may in lie the issue we get a more robust storm Thursday we kick Saturday South from CNJ N it might seem. Heights may not have enough time to recoup UNLESS it delays to Sunday. Just an observation.
But DO - delayed openings and possible closings at play.
Got to love the ones that were not on the radar but found under the pile.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Pretty Juicy for 3K NAM.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
Take a look at 06z 3km NAM, last 3 runs have trended further and further south and now it starts as rain for all and maybe a coating to an inch, 2-4 does not look like its happening N/W of NYC in face they see little to nothing. Things just do not want to work in our favor this year sheesh.
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15 degrees this morning. The red probability percentages are a thing of beauty.
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17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
docstox12 wrote:17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.
Sounds about right Doc. A couple of the short range models have us at 3-4 inches which we'd take for the win if it ever happened with this system.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:docstox12 wrote:17 degrees here Damian. Calm winds, partly cloudy.
Maybe 2 inches for tonight and tomorrow.Looks like the weekend storm ATM is a done deal.
Sounds about right Doc. A couple of the short range models have us at 3-4 inches which we'd take for the win if it ever happened with this system.
Whatever we get CP will be a nice snowpack freshener before we turn much colder.Get your snowpack days counter up and running my good man!
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
17* for my low and looks to be a couple of inches of white gold for tomorrow morning at best. Models have trended drier as the norm so far this season. We'll see what our SR guidance says today if they juice it up.
Saturday storm is gone, its in Va Beach even DC seems to get skunked, WTH? Va Beach the snow snow capitol of the EC?? Please dont say well they deserve it yada yada yada.
Here is a GIF of the NAM - gonna be a messy commute. Delayed opening are possible in CNJ & NNJ if this verifies.
Saturday storm is gone, its in Va Beach even DC seems to get skunked, WTH? Va Beach the snow snow capitol of the EC?? Please dont say well they deserve it yada yada yada.
Here is a GIF of the NAM - gonna be a messy commute. Delayed opening are possible in CNJ & NNJ if this verifies.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
NWS upped tehir total from 1" yesterday to........1.9-2" - how about that for a spread LOL. Better than nothing!
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
IF it verifies it woudl be a nice little event.
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Re: January 2022 Obs & Discussions
12z NAM is not cooling fast enough which causes the coast to start as rain before changing to snow later Thursday morning. That is going to cut down on the totals there, but N&W should stay all snow.
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We are still anticipating a period of snow during the Thursday AM commute with light accumulations in the NYC Metro and surrounding areas. Roads are likely to be very slick, with temperatures dropping quickly right before the snow begins. pic.twitter.com/LkSUmEsz25
— New York Metro Weather (@nymetrowx) January 19, 2022
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BOOK it Dan O! - remember that show my fellow AARers?
HREF is a great SR compilation tool
HREF is a great SR compilation tool
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