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01/23/16 Storm Update #5 - It Is What It Is, Or Is It?

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Post by sroc4 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:23 am

jmanley32 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:I am hearing the RGEM looks similar to the 4km NAM..?

Not sure why the 12z RGEM has not loaded at all on wxbell, so I cannot get the maps.  Unless someone knows somewhere else it can be found.

I think it just initialized there. I actually posted the 6z. I am just realizing that now.

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Post by dsvinos Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:23 am

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Frank_Wx wrote:No one get excited about the QPF. Get excited about the TRACK! NAM continues to tuck the low into NJ instead of chasing convection.

no excited yes...but also concerned with living on the coast what that will do to our area...

I am concerned at this point too. I have friends that live by you and I'm a realtor so I travel down the Hazlet/Middletown area quite often and I would hate to see anyone suffer anymore damage after Sandy. While I'm excited to see all of the totals rise I'm worried about everyone's safety. I'm going to have to help my husband with snow removal with all of this! I'm hopeful that the NAM QPF is overdone a bit.

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Post by hyde345 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:24 am

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hyde345 wrote:Definitely lesser amounts in HV. Still looking like c-2 from 84 north.

This is not our storm hyde.I'm 2 to 4 a little south of you.The more easterly than north movement is ruining it for us in the HV.

Yup, It's pretty apparent on almost all models significant precip is not making it up here. It's a distinct possibility we get nothing IMBY.
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:24 am

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SoulSingMG wrote:I am hearing the RGEM looks similar to the 4km NAM..?

Not sure why the 12z RGEM has not loaded at all on wxbell, so I cannot get the maps.  Unless someone knows somewhere else it can be found.

I think it just initialized there.  I actually posted the 6z.  I am just realizing that now.

Yes the 06z was not good, I hear the 12z is pretty big hit, all this model confusion at this pt. is stressing me out lol, one person says believe the nw trend believe higher snows some say do not u had a great explanation of the E trend though I hope ur dead wrong (not bashing you).
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Post by rb924119 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:27 am

12z RGEM total QPF:

01/23/16 Storm Update #5 - It Is What It Is, Or Is It? - Page 26 Rgem_apcpn_neus_15

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Post by amugs Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:28 am

Precip[ creeping North - it tucked the low in more top the coast - playing catch up?? 18Z will tell better:

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Post by SoulSingMG Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:31 am

RGEM made a tiiiiny shift north w/ heaviest precip. Good lord, what a nail biter.
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:33 am

Doc. Don't worry I'm not buying anything for us other than a 6 max. I'm just expecting another Frustrating force field right around the TZ BRIDGE. Most models have been pretty consistent with that.

However these short term models as I have stated several times do remind me of the last minute turn of the 96 storm. I'm not saying I buy it because I don't but a man can dream can't he.
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Post by docstox12 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:35 am

CPcantmeasuresnow wrote:Doc. Don't worry I'm not buying anything for us other than a 6 max. I'm just expecting another Frustrating force field right around the TZ BRIDGE.  Most models have been pretty consistent with that.

However these short term models as I have stated several times do remind me of the last minute turn of the 96 storm. I'm not saying I buy it because I don't but a man can dream can't he.

Right CP.I remember the Boxing Day Blizzard which a few days before was modeled to be 1 to 3 or OTS.

Yeah 6 will be ok but meh compared to NYC on South.Oh well....
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Post by jimv45 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:35 am

Doc i am getting tired of hearing this is not our storm good thing i will not be around tomorrow to think about it  going to hunter mountain with family at least I get to see some snow!

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Post by sroc4 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:36 am

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jmanley32 wrote:
SoulSingMG wrote:I am hearing the RGEM looks similar to the 4km NAM..?

Not sure why the 12z RGEM has not loaded at all on wxbell, so I cannot get the maps.  Unless someone knows somewhere else it can be found.

I think it just initialized there.  I actually posted the 6z.  I am just realizing that now.

Yes the 06z was not good, I hear the 12z is pretty big hit, all this model confusion at this pt. is stressing me out lol, one person says believe the nw trend believe higher snows some say do not u had a great explanation of the E trend though I hope ur dead wrong (not bashing you).

All I was trying to illustrate with that was why there was an east push to the LP once off the coast on the modeling.

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Post by jimv45 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:37 am

cp I don't think we even sniff 6 but hey if that were to happen I take it!!

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Post by rb924119 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:37 am

12z RGEM total snow:

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Post by sroc4 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:38 am

Closed 500mb further N than models. It might open up again before remaining closed:
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Post by jmanley32 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:40 am

sroc4 wrote:Closed 500mb further N than models.  It might open up again before remaining closed:
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Is this good for this area?
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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:40 am

12z GFS brings much more snowfall for NYC. There is more lift and a better defined CCB

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Post by docstox12 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:40 am

jimv45 wrote:Doc i am getting tired of hearing this is not our storm good thing i will not be around tomorrow to think about it  going to hunter mountain with family at least I get to see some snow!

Enjoy, jim! At least we had some nice cold weather for the ski resorts to pump out snow.
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Post by rb924119 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:41 am

12z GFS jackpots, and I mean JACKPOTS Philly. Holy crap.....

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Post by jmanley32 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:41 am

NVM u said north duh dumb question lol
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Post by meeka312 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:42 am

http://patch.com/new-jersey/westfield/nj-storm-update-blizzard-threat-grows-more-details-released-0

What my town is saying.

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Post by jmanley32 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:44 am

Nice 10-12 for me on 12z GFS that's a big uptick, stil ldoes that strung out to follow convection thing. Only model that is doing that no? What are you thinking about that Frank?
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Post by CPcantmeasuresnow Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:44 am

jimv45 wrote:cp I don't think we even sniff 6 but hey if that were to happen I take it!!

Jim were about 20 miles south of you so maybe we max at 6 you're area at this point probably a max of 3 if that. The gradient is consistently that tight. I haven't given up yet though. Call me an idiot still dreams of 96 for me.
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Post by jimv45 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:45 am

boy people south of NYC are going to be stuck for a while!

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Post by Frank_Wx Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:45 am

Look at where the GFS is tucking the surface low. Wow.

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Post by docstox12 Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:45 am

Frank_Wx wrote:01/23/16 Storm Update #5 - It Is What It Is, Or Is It? - Page 26 GFS_MSLPThickQPF_ne_f21

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I have a buddy in Atco NJ right outside of Philly.He's gonna get blasted, probably 24 inches.Wow!!!
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Post by amugs Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:45 am

jmanley32 wrote:Nice 10-12 for me on 12z GFS that's a big uptick, stil ldoes that strung out to follow convection thing.  Only model that is doing that no?  What are you thinking about that Frank?

Yes SLP jumps east again - chasing after its tail like a dog somewhat but bring good snow up this way - looks top 1.25" into teh city - trending with nam??

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